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joecooper
Apr 21st 2005, 12:20 pm
Has anyone seen this resource yet?

Revenue Insider Pre-Registration Now Open
$43,500 A Month In AdSense Revenue - Discover How!

http://www.revenueinsider.com/

Tell me what you think.

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 12:23 pm
What I think? I think this is SPAM.

T0PS3O
Apr 21st 2005, 12:24 pm
I suspected the same, deleted the redirect so you can safely check out the site... Also posted in wrong forum. Please read Forum rules re: aff link posting rules.

crazyhorse
Apr 21st 2005, 12:25 pm
Yeah sure. I will let you in on a little secret i have myself. I will tell you this " if i found a legitimate way to earn that amount of money a month i would for sure not tell it too anyone" . But who am I.

Solicitors Mortgages
Apr 21st 2005, 12:26 pm
TOPs, i never noticed you had mod powers,
i take back everything i ever said about you ;)

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 12:29 pm
Has anyone seen this resource yet?

Revenue Insider Pre-Registration Now Open
$43,500 A Month In AdSense Revenue - Discover How!

http://www.revenueinsider.com/

Tell me what you think.


LOL what a load of BS. Even I don't promise those kind of returns for my adsense system.

khushal
Apr 21st 2005, 12:30 pm
Has anyone seen this resource yet?

Revenue Insider Pre-Registration Now Open
$43,500 A Month In AdSense Revenue - Discover How!

http://www.revenueinsider.com/

Tell me what you think.
Hey guys dont you think this page is quite faniliar to the one which describes Joel comm's story.

Solicitors Mortgages
Apr 21st 2005, 12:31 pm
i think they added a '0' by accident...an honest mistake ;)

should read $43.50 /month :D :D

jlerner
Apr 21st 2005, 12:34 pm
If anyone actually pays for this, please contact me.
I have some real estate on the moon you might be interested in purchasing.

noppid
Apr 21st 2005, 12:38 pm
If anyone actually pays for this, please contact me.
I have some real estate on the moon you might be interested in purchasing.


That's odd, I don't recall selling you any? Are you a new customer or broker? :D

khushal
Apr 21st 2005, 12:39 pm
Well earning a 43.50$ a month is not a bad deal too unless its earned with honesty rather than the 43,500$ a month with Dishonesty.

serenity
Apr 21st 2005, 12:40 pm
I believe it is someone wanting to make money without working for it. ;)

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 12:43 pm
LOl perry marshal

khushal
Apr 21st 2005, 12:44 pm
Oh yah!!!Thats what bothers me,why would a millionaire be so cheap as to write a book or give tips to others for some little money!!!

joeychgo
Apr 21st 2005, 12:50 pm
Has anyone seen this resource yet?

Revenue Insider Pre-Registration Now Open
$43,500 A Month In AdSense Revenue - Discover How!

http://www.revenueinsider.com/

Tell me what you think.

and if you act now, we will include, at no additional cost, a free 2005 Cadillac Seville! Offer is limited to the first 100 callers so hurry!


Gimmie a friggin break...

noppid
Apr 21st 2005, 12:51 pm
and if you act now, we will include, at no additional cost, a free 2005 Cadillac Seville! Limited to the first 100 callers so hurry!


Gimmie a friggin break...

Can I have a Dark Blue one?

khushal
Apr 21st 2005, 12:54 pm
i am the second caller so gimme the Grayish,lest it is fully loaded

www.AmCy.org
Apr 21st 2005, 12:58 pm
All these cookie-cutter spam sites have the same look and feel. Lots of yellow highlight. A signature graphic to add a special air of faux authenticity. Copy that reads like so many late night infomercials. It may even be Carlton Sheets who made that site! Website belongs in a museum, IMO.

AmCy

jonyboy30
Apr 21st 2005, 12:58 pm
Oh yah!!!Thats what bothers me,why would a millionaire be so cheap as to write a book or give tips to others for some little money!!!

LOL cuz he wanna make us all rich.

btw - my 1st post on this forum. Had been lurking around for a while, but thought to make my first post now.

stephfoster
Apr 21st 2005, 1:01 pm
I'm thinking this will be a monthly membership kind of thing, since they say the software will be released over time. That seems to be a big thing right now.

T0PS3O
Apr 21st 2005, 1:05 pm
This part sounds good for the SE's:



The Article Obfuscator

Working in tandem with our Article Generator Content Engine, the Article Obfuscator allows you to generate multiple versions of the same content each altered in such a way that it is completely readable by the visitor but looks like completely different content to the search engines.

We are currently adding support for the Article Obfuscator to all our content engines. IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES. You are going to be able to generate millions of unique pages of content that will just pull in the visitors to your site.

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 1:22 pm
Im getting tired of these stupid adsense and adwords gurus. Too much hype.

A typical ebook reads like:

""7-month-old discovers adwords marketing system earns $345,900 a month in his crib doing absolutely nothing!!1!!1111!!"

Google cash is another one of these hype ebooks. The only one making google cash is who ever sells the ebook.

T0PS3O
Apr 21st 2005, 1:23 pm
Im getting tired of these stupid adsense and adwords gurus. Too much hype.

A typical ebook reads like:

""7-month-old discovers adwords marketing system earns $345,900 a month in his crib doing absolutely nothing!!1!!1111!!"

How is your signature offering different?

noppid
Apr 21st 2005, 1:25 pm
How is your signature offering different?

LMAO!!! I almost spit on my monitor! :eek:

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 1:26 pm
Becuase I explain how it works, and it is within reason.

These ebook ads are called dumb ads (mazu.com). They simply tell you how much you can make but leave out most of the rest.

T0PS3O
Apr 21st 2005, 1:33 pm
Becuase I explain how it works, and it is within reason.

These ebook ads are called dumb ads (mazu.com). They simply tell you how much you can make but leave out most of the rest.

Fair play. But your offering is shrouded in mist. For all we know it might well be an e-mail collection scam.

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 1:36 pm
It isn't a collection scam. I have a privacy policy I strictly follow. PLus I make more selling the system than I ever could harvesting email. I use the email landing page strategy to improve my converison rate.

T0PS3O
Apr 21st 2005, 1:39 pm
OK I'll give you the benefit of the doubt... Back to the scammer...

mopacfan
Apr 21st 2005, 1:41 pm
Oh crap, I got in too late. I sure wish I could have visited that redirect dangit. I feel so cheated now.

T0PS3O
Apr 21st 2005, 1:42 pm
Oh crap, I got in too late. I sure wish I could have visited that redirect dangit. I feel so cheated now.

I didn't even notice it redirected at first. It goes mighty fast from the .co.uk address he posted to this .com .

iconrate
Apr 21st 2005, 1:50 pm
This is something my mom (former herbalife seller) and her boyfriend would read and sign up for lol. They'd read the damned page word for word and would pay whatever it costs.

In other words this sort of site I'm sure does generate revenue if the traffic is there. There's a person with money to burn on every street and probably a good chunk of them lacking intelligence.
I may have to start one of these soon :)

david_sakh
Apr 21st 2005, 1:50 pm
Has anyone seen this resource yet?

Revenue Insider Pre-Registration Now Open
$43,500 A Month In AdSense Revenue - Discover How!

http://www.revenueinsider.com/

Tell me what you think.

LOCK. BAN. FIRING SQUAD.

Solicitors Mortgages
Apr 21st 2005, 2:14 pm
How is your signature offering different?
LMAO!!! I almost spit on my monitor! :eek:

looks dodgy to me too....no facts, just a blind e-mail.
however honest it may actually be.

as there are no proven systems apart, from having 1,000 sites and making $10+ on each, (helps if you can get cheap hosting)

Might as well say 'sign up here so we can mail you a virus'.

Tapanti
Apr 21st 2005, 3:14 pm
This part sounds good for the SE's:

Quote:

The Article Obfuscator

Working in tandem with our Article Generator Content Engine, the Article Obfuscator allows you to generate multiple versions of the same content each altered in such a way that it is completely readable by the visitor but looks like completely different content to the search engines.

We are currently adding support for the Article Obfuscator to all our content engines. IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES. You are going to be able to generate millions of unique pages of content that will just pull in the visitors to your site.
You got this one right! I've actually wanted to do something similar myself, but haven't had the time. I can for sure imagine the possibilities! :rolleyes:

.

pattygale
Apr 21st 2005, 4:15 pm
Ugh... another "guru wannabe" spamming this board. This type of one-page hyped up (used car salesman approach) sales letters are modelled after Cory Rudl's (sp?) "Internet Marketing Center" teachings.

One long, continuous (buy my overpriced product or you're a loser) type of marketing.

It's like late-night informercials for the web. I may not be a phD, but why do these people continue to insult our intelligence with this garbage?

david_sakh
Apr 21st 2005, 4:25 pm
It's not us they are after. They are after the folks who search with askjeeves, have viagra sites in the favorites list, and install the coolfunhappy toolbar.

iconrate
Apr 21st 2005, 4:27 pm
It's not us they are after. They are after the folks who search with askjeeves, have viagra sites in the favorites list, and install the coolfunhappy toolbar.

What's with the link in this forum then?

david_sakh
Apr 21st 2005, 4:29 pm
some marketers get desperate. :p

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 4:50 pm
Oh yah!!!Thats what bothers me,why would a millionaire be so cheap as to write a book or give tips to others for some little money!!!

Because, that is how they make their money!

antonaf
Apr 21st 2005, 4:50 pm
When I was fresh out of high school some years ago now! I had got a job selling home fire extingushers door-to-door, friends, & family...however I could sell them. The boss was a midget (not that it mattered), but he promised me that I would be a big boss...I would make lots of money.....and I would have my own regional office to run. He even had me looking for my own office space. I was excited and ready! All I had to do was go through the pre-stages before I become a top executive. The pre-stages was selling stages which each had an unreachable amount...such as: 1st stage: Sell $15,000 dollars worth.....2nd stage: Sell $50,000 dollars worth....3rd stage: $100,000 dollars worth. He made me believe I could do it...and he introduced me to young (so-called) executives who have already completed the stages and was making big bucks! I went back to my old high school and told all the teachers, students, etc. that I was going to be this big executive making lots of money and have my own office with employees. I couldn't sell any extingushers...so to make me look like I was selling I bought $1000.00 dollars worth myself...and used my family and friends names as if they bought the items. But here is the kicker...a (so-called) co-worker or co-salesperson...who I met at the first interview/sales meeting and had got hired that day as well had convinced me to buy the items myself if I wasn't able to sell them...he supposedly was doing that and was moving up in the company...while I was being left behind. Shortly, after I depleted my $1000.00 and couldn't produce anymore, I realized that the entire chirad was a scam. And everyone was in on it except me. Everyone who worked there...even the person who so-called was hired with me. Years later, I had seen the boss on the news being investigated by the I-Team in New Jersey...the I-Team investigate scams and wrong-doers and report it on the news. Couldn't believe it...and they made a good living at doing this to people. I could only imagine how much others had spent. I should have known something was wrong with this company, but I was young, eager, and stupid.

Long story short...
Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me....
I will not be a sucker of a scam ever again!

Sorry for the long winded post...

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 4:52 pm
LMAO!!! I almost spit on my monitor! :eek:

I did... :)

david_sakh
Apr 21st 2005, 4:54 pm
When I was fresh out of high school some years ago now! I had got a job selling home fire extingushers door-to-door, friends, & family...however I could sell them. The boss was a midget (not that it mattered), but he promised me that I would be a big boss...I would make lots of money.....and I would have my own regional office to run. He even had me looking for my own office space. I was excited and ready! All I had to do was go through the pre-stages before I become a top executive. The pre-stages was selling stages which each had an unreachable amount...such as: 1st stage: Sell $15,000 dollars worth.....2nd stage: Sell $50,000 dollars worth....3rd stage: $100,000 dollars worth. He made me believe I could do it...and he introduced me to young (so-called) executives who have already completed the stages and was making big bucks! I went back to my old high school and told all the teachers, students, etc. that I was going to be this big executive making lots of money and have my own office with employees. I couldn't sell any extingushers...so to make me look like I was selling I bought $1000.00 dollars worth myself...and used my family and friends names as if they bought the items. But here is the kicker...a (so-called) co-worker or co-salesperson of mine...who came to the first interview/sales meeting with me had convinced me that...buying the items myself if I wasn't able to sell was the smart thing to do...he supposedly was doing that and was moving up in the company...while I was being left behind. Shortly, after I depleted my $1000.00 and couldn't produce anymore, I realized that the entire chirad was a scam. And everyone was in on it except me. Everyone who worked there...even the person who so-called was hired with me. Years later, I had seen the boss on the news being investigated by the I-Team in New Jersey...the I-Team investigate scams and wrong-doers and report it on the news. Couldn't believe it...and they made a good living at doing this to people. I could only imagine how much others had spent. I should have known something was wrong with this company, but I was young, eager, and stupid.

Long story short...
Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me....
I will not be a sucker of a scam ever again!

Sorry for the long winded post...


lol. :p I was ALMOST fooled into Vector Marketing's program. AKA steak-knife selling. A quick G search was enough for me to bail out of that tramcar to hell.

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 4:56 pm
Ugh... another "guru wannabe" spamming this board. This type of one-page hyped up (used car salesman approach) sales letters are modelled after Cory Rudl's (sp?) "Internet Marketing Center" teachings.

One long, continuous (buy my overpriced product or you're a loser) type of marketing.

It's like late-night informercials for the web. I may not be a phD, but why do these people continue to insult our intelligence with this garbage?

Keep in mind that many of the people falling for these scams ARE PHD's!

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 5:00 pm
When I was fresh out of high school some years ago now! I had got a job selling home fire extingushers door-to-door, friends, & family...however I could sell them. The boss was a midget (not that it mattered), but he promised me that I would be a big boss...I would make lots of money.....and I would have my own regional office to run. He even had me looking for my own office space. I was excited and ready! All I had to do was go through the pre-stages before I become a top executive. The pre-stages was selling stages which each had an unreachable amount...such as: 1st stage: Sell $15,000 dollars worth.....2nd stage: Sell $50,000 dollars worth....3rd stage: $100,000 dollars worth. He made me believe I could do it...and he introduced me to young (so-called) executives who have already completed the stages and was making big bucks! I went back to my old high school and told all the teachers, students, etc. that I was going to be this big executive making lots of money and have my own office with employees. I couldn't sell any extingushers...so to make me look like I was selling I bought $1000.00 dollars worth myself...and used my family and friends names as if they bought the items. But here is the kicker...a (so-called) co-worker or co-salesperson...who I met at the first interview/sales meeting and had got hired that day as well had convinced me to buy the items myself if I wasn't able to sell them...he supposedly was doing that and was moving up in the company...while I was being left behind. Shortly, after I depleted my $1000.00 and couldn't produce anymore, I realized that the entire chirad was a scam. And everyone was in on it except me. Everyone who worked there...even the person who so-called was hired with me. Years later, I had seen the boss on the news being investigated by the I-Team in New Jersey...the I-Team investigate scams and wrong-doers and report it on the news. Couldn't believe it...and they made a good living at doing this to people. I could only imagine how much others had spent. I should have known something was wrong with this company, but I was young, eager, and stupid.

Long story short...
Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me....
I will not be a sucker of a scam ever again!

Sorry for the long winded post...

That was a fantastic story. Thank you for sharing that.

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 5:00 pm
When I was fresh out of high school some years ago now! I had got a job selling home fire extingushers door-to-door, friends, & family...however I could sell them. The boss was a midget (not that it mattered), but he promised me that I would be a big boss...I would make lots of money.....and I would have my own regional office to run. He even had me looking for my own office space. I was excited and ready! All I had to do was go through the pre-stages before I become a top executive. The pre-stages was selling stages which each had an unreachable amount...such as: 1st stage: Sell $15,000 dollars worth.....2nd stage: Sell $50,000 dollars worth....3rd stage: $100,000 dollars worth. He made me believe I could do it...and he introduced me to young (so-called) executives who have already completed the stages and was making big bucks! I went back to my old high school and told all the teachers, students, etc. that I was going to be this big executive making lots of money and have my own office with employees. I couldn't sell any extingushers...so to make me look like I was selling I bought $1000.00 dollars worth myself...and used my family and friends names as if they bought the items. But here is the kicker...a (so-called) co-worker or co-salesperson...who I met at the first interview/sales meeting and had got hired that day as well had convinced me to buy the items myself if I wasn't able to sell them...he supposedly was doing that and was moving up in the company...while I was being left behind. Shortly, after I depleted my $1000.00 and couldn't produce anymore, I realized that the entire chirad was a scam. And everyone was in on it except me. Everyone who worked there...even the person who so-called was hired with me. Years later, I had seen the boss on the news being investigated by the I-Team in New Jersey...the I-Team investigate scams and wrong-doers and report it on the news. Couldn't believe it...and they made a good living at doing this to people. I could only imagine how much others had spent. I should have known something was wrong with this company, but I was young, eager, and stupid.

Long story short...
Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me....
I will not be a sucker of a scam ever again!

Sorry for the long winded post...

Dude..tat sucks. Sorry to hear about that...


BTW perry marshal sucks

antonaf
Apr 21st 2005, 5:01 pm
Too bad Google wasn't around for me when I got out of high school. The internet was just born! c/o 1993

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 5:03 pm
Too bad Google wasn't around for me when I got out of high school. The internet was just born! c/o 1993

I wish I registered all the 3 letter dotcoms as well as business.com and loans.com cars.com. All I was focused on was the oJ trial and jackson trial.

pattygale
Apr 21st 2005, 5:03 pm
""" Keep in mind that many of the people falling for these scams ARE PHD's! """"

I don't doubt that.

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 5:04 pm
""" Keep in mind that many of the people falling for these scams ARE PHD's! """"

I don't doubt that.

WHo do you think falls for those invesmtent schemes? PHDs and MBA folks. Never too smart to get conned.

noppid
Apr 21st 2005, 5:05 pm
""" Keep in mind that many of the people falling for these scams ARE PHD's! """"

I don't doubt that.


Oh you'd be surprised. People with Doctorates do odd things. I saw a perfect example of it in public today on the vBulletin forums. :/

antonaf
Apr 21st 2005, 5:09 pm
""" Keep in mind that many of the people falling for these scams ARE PHD's! """"

I don't doubt that.

Is that so?

Is there any studies that prove this? I would like to see the reports/research on this. Why would PHD's be easily scammed? Is it greed that make them easy victims? I would think they would be more suspicious of scams.

Not knocking clickbank or any e-book...but I have never bought a ebook and only go to clickbank to grab some affiliates...because I know that people really do purchase these things. If I want to learn how to earn money...I don't turn to ebooks...I come to DigitalPoint and the like. I think I learn more for free without reading through all the fluff.

pattygale
Apr 21st 2005, 5:24 pm
>> Oh you'd be surprised. People with Doctorates do odd things <<

Right.. that's what I meant. I do not doubt that they fall for this kind of stuff

riziko
Apr 21st 2005, 5:33 pm
How come someone with only 1 post can create live links?

classifieds
Apr 21st 2005, 5:36 pm
I wish I registered all the 3 letter dotcoms as well as business.com and loans.com cars.com. All I was focused on was the oJ trial and jackson trial.

I did :p

Is there any studies that prove this? I would like to see the reports/research on this. Why would PHD's be easily scammed? Is it greed that make them easy victims? I would think they would be more suspicious of scams.

I've done business with mlm/marketing firms that target highly educated professionals (doctors, lawyers architects, etc. . ).

If the pitch is sophisticated and the upside is presented as "huge" then they are all easy marks.

It's not about education its about greed (something for nothing).

-jay

yo-yo
Apr 21st 2005, 5:39 pm
When I was fresh out of high school some years ago now! I had got a job selling home fire extingushers door-to-door, friends, & family...however I could sell them. The boss was a midget (not that it mattered), but he promised me that I would be a big boss...I would make lots of money.....and I would have my own regional office to run. He even had me looking for my own office space. I was excited and ready! All I had to do was go through the pre-stages before I become a top executive. The pre-stages was selling stages which each had an unreachable amount...such as: 1st stage: Sell $15,000 dollars worth.....2nd stage: Sell $50,000 dollars worth....3rd stage: $100,000 dollars worth. He made me believe I could do it...and he introduced me to young (so-called) executives who have already completed the stages and was making big bucks! I went back to my old high school and told all the teachers, students, etc. that I was going to be this big executive making lots of money and have my own office with employees. I couldn't sell any extingushers...so to make me look like I was selling I bought $1000.00 dollars worth myself...and used my family and friends names as if they bought the items. But here is the kicker...a (so-called) co-worker or co-salesperson...who I met at the first interview/sales meeting and had got hired that day as well had convinced me to buy the items myself if I wasn't able to sell them...he supposedly was doing that and was moving up in the company...while I was being left behind. Shortly, after I depleted my $1000.00 and couldn't produce anymore, I realized that the entire chirad was a scam. And everyone was in on it except me. Everyone who worked there...even the person who so-called was hired with me. Years later, I had seen the boss on the news being investigated by the I-Team in New Jersey...the I-Team investigate scams and wrong-doers and report it on the news. Couldn't believe it...and they made a good living at doing this to people. I could only imagine how much others had spent. I should have known something was wrong with this company, but I was young, eager, and stupid.

Long story short...
Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me....
I will not be a sucker of a scam ever again!

Sorry for the long winded post...

It's called a 'pyramid scheme' and there's thousands of these companies all over america. Two i know of are selling Perfume business to bussiness and another is selling vacuums to people door to door.

They all advertise in the paper "managers needed, no experience ness."

I've been to several of the "interviews" here in phoenix only to find out what the company really was and leave.

noppid
Apr 21st 2005, 5:43 pm
I had a buddy get scammed in the stock market, he was losing money and the only way out was to sell his interest to another loser for 10K knowing they would lose.

He never sold that stock or recovered any money.

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 5:51 pm
How come someone with only 1 post can create live links?

They can't. It was not live when the affiliate link was posted. I did a copy paste, looked at the site, (did not realize it was an affiliate link at the time), then posted a reply stating the post was spam. The moderator edited the post, pulled the affiliate link and reposted the site as a link.

At least I am pretty certain that is how the link ended up live. I am pretty certain it was not initially.

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 5:55 pm
Is that so?

Is there any studies that prove this? I would like to see the reports/research on this. Why would PHD's be easily scammed? Is it greed that make them easy victims? I would think they would be more suspicious of scams.

I've noticed over the years that people who spent more time in school than in the real world lack common sense and street smarts. The kind of common sense that comes from real life experience. I know of no studies. It's just an observation on my part.

In any event the largest Nigerian scam that was reported several months ago involved a PhD, who lost the most of anyone to date to the Nigerian Scam.

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 5:56 pm
Oh you'd be surprised. People with Doctorates do odd things. I saw a perfect example of it in public today on the vBulletin forums. :/

Do tell. I love stories like that.

Tapanti
Apr 21st 2005, 6:11 pm
Why would PHD's be easily scammed? Is it greed that make them easy victims? I would think they would be more suspicious of scams.Academic education and/or training don’t make anybody an Internet business expert. As in everything, it takes time to learn and know where to go and when to run.

Educated people can be sometimes more easily convinced -I believe- as they are used to accept as truth what they see in writing (e.g. in books or articles), and if they haven't been on the net for some time, but have just felt into the growing tide of people wanting to have an online business, there is a good chance, many of them will buy the scam. Why do you think they make the text soooo long? It denotes authority.

.

john_loch
Apr 21st 2005, 6:33 pm
They can't. It was not live when the affiliate link was posted. I did a copy paste, looked at the site, (did not realize it was an affiliate link at the time), then posted a reply stating the post was spam. The moderator edited the post, pulled the affiliate link and reposted the site as a link.

At least I am pretty certain that is how the link ended up live. I am pretty certain it was not initially.

Ahh.. that explains it..

I was wondering myself. :)

pattygale
Apr 21st 2005, 7:12 pm
>> Is that so?

Is there any studies that prove this? I would like to see the reports/research on this. Why would PHD's be easily scammed? Is it greed that make them easy victims? I would think they would be more suspicious of scams. <<<


Oh cripe.. I did not say that phD's are easily scammed or easy victims... Please don't put words in my mouth... but you know... book education and common sense are not necessarily the same thing.

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 21st 2005, 7:48 pm
How about we wrap this up and say that anyone can get scammed. Smart, dumb. Tall or midget. Highschool or College. PHD or BS. It doesn't matter.

Mia
Apr 21st 2005, 7:50 pm
Agreed.......

pattygale
Apr 21st 2005, 10:28 pm
Sounds good to me.

david_sakh
Apr 22nd 2005, 12:06 am
I'll agree...just give me 3 minutes to tell you about a revenue-generating program that will forever change your life! Working for 3 seconds a day, you can be sailing your personal cruiseliner out of the harbor in as little as 3 weeks!

T0PS3O
Apr 22nd 2005, 1:41 am
BTW perry marshal sucks

His AdWords PDFs are a good read though.

T0PS3O
Apr 22nd 2005, 1:43 am
They can't. It was not live when the affiliate link was posted. I did a copy paste, looked at the site, (did not realize it was an affiliate link at the time), then posted a reply stating the post was spam. The moderator edited the post, pulled the affiliate link and reposted the site as a link.

At least I am pretty certain that is how the link ended up live. I am pretty certain it was not initially.

Spot on. All of you were going to look anyway and without the aff it doesn't really harm anyone.

basicus
Apr 22nd 2005, 2:32 am
Hehe. This was an exellent thread!
I have of course neeeeeever signed up for anything stupid.. ;)

I remember when I was into one of these look at ads and make money things. Boy, did I feel stupid.. Did I get any payouts? Of course not. But I did sit and stare at these ads for days..

sadcox66
Apr 22nd 2005, 6:01 am
Are you sure it is working. I signed up to take a look and did not receive anything yet.
Not that I am complaining.

akeeldin
Apr 22nd 2005, 6:57 am
It seems scammers are getting dumber too:

I've recently started to get 'Euro Lottery Winning Notification' letters. Get about a couple each week.

All are bad photocopies with pixelated images. But all are sent from Spain with postage at 1.10 Euros. How much money must these bozos be losing?

T0PS3O
Apr 22nd 2005, 6:58 am
Letters? By snailmail? I get them daily but by e-mail.

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 22nd 2005, 10:26 am
It seems scammers are getting dumber too:

I've recently started to get 'Euro Lottery Winning Notification' letters. Get about a couple each week.

All are bad photocopies with pixelated images. But all are sent from Spain with postage at 1.10 Euros. How much money must these bozos be losing?


I see the envelope stuffing scam flyers everywhere. people still think people will pay $3 for a single stuffed envelope. Stupid.

Shoemoney
Apr 23rd 2005, 7:43 pm
this cat could atleast fake photoshop the check he *recieved*... geaze even scamers are getting lazy

www.AmCy.org
Apr 23rd 2005, 7:47 pm
this cat could atleast fake photoshop the check he got... geaze even scamers are getting lazy

Yup: nothing worse than a lazy scammer. Heh.

AmCy

Investor
Apr 23rd 2005, 10:47 pm
Has anyone seen this resource yet?

Revenue Insider Pre-Registration Now Open
$43,500 A Month In AdSense Revenue - Discover How!

Tell me what you think.

I think this is spam.

Blogmaster
Apr 23rd 2005, 11:00 pm
It was until the affiliate link was deleted, now it is just a resource but a bad one IMO.

Investor
Apr 23rd 2005, 11:01 pm
Why can't I post link to my website,
I have total of 12 posts (and apparently, the error message states I need only 10).

Blogmaster
Apr 23rd 2005, 11:06 pm
Don't worry about it and keep on posting.

Investor
Apr 23rd 2005, 11:12 pm
Don't worry about it and keep on posting.
How much do you make?

Nintendo
Apr 23rd 2005, 11:24 pm
Why can't I post link to my website,
I have total of 12 posts (and apparently, the error message states I need only 10).

In two minutes you'll be able to. You'll also be able to have a signiture. Once an hour the database checks for users that have past 10 posts, to upgrade them, at 25 past the hour.

clasione
Apr 23rd 2005, 11:32 pm
i think they added a '0' by accident...an honest mistake ;)

should read $43.50 /month :D :D

very good..... A well need laugh... ;)

szynka
Apr 27th 2005, 10:28 am
I can beat that.

SoulFlower
Apr 27th 2005, 10:42 am
I can beat that.

Good for you then :D

mehere
Apr 27th 2005, 4:07 pm
hey...this guy got what he wanted! a post with lots of attention...and lots of google adsense $$$ :P :p

Homer
Apr 27th 2005, 5:10 pm
Did anyone join, I wonder. I know someone who did. He talks with Hayden every day. :eek:

classifieds
Apr 27th 2005, 5:15 pm
Did anyone join, I wonder. I know someone who did. He talks with Hayden every day. :eek:

So who's Hayden?

Homer
Apr 27th 2005, 6:10 pm
So who's Hayden?

Read the original post http://www.revenueinsider.com/... Hayden McCabe is the brains behind this.

khushal
Apr 27th 2005, 10:46 pm
I guess its time to say Good Bye to this SPAMFULL Thread;)

alang
Apr 27th 2005, 10:55 pm
Since google update the way ads appear on publisher's site, I don't think all this e-books tips is still relevant or not. Not surprise to see new e-books based on this google new features though....

anusha
Apr 28th 2005, 1:53 am
Plz don't ever try this !! If that was the case, he won't be wasting time selling it for such low rates.... Another BIG SCAM

Homer
Apr 28th 2005, 7:56 am
I agree but what is a 'content generating engine' ? I realize the phrase is self explanatory. He talks about 8 different content generating engines that produce 1000's of Adsense optimized content pages.

Has anyone actually read what this guy is saying? Do content generating engines exist and are they available to the public? Sorry if these sounds like dumb questions :rolleyes:

Shoemoney
Apr 28th 2005, 8:19 am
The hilarious thing about this thread is there is tons of people doing this (content generation for maximum adsense) and making assloads more then 50k a month.

This guy is a joke.

classifieds
Apr 28th 2005, 8:26 am
Read the original post http://www.revenueinsider.com/... Hayden McCabe is the brains behind this.This looks like copy from a Dan Kennedy get rich quick scheme.

Was it PT Barnum that said "a sucker is born every minute. . . and two salesmen to sell to him"

Or my favorite quote from J.R. Ewing (Dallas): " Once you lose your integrity the rest is easy."

maverick
Apr 28th 2005, 8:57 am
Why he is selling such information then if he is already earning millions per year.... LOL!!

jlawrence
Apr 28th 2005, 9:06 am
Why, probably there'll be a tie in to use some of the tools. Say it costs $10 per month to use the content engines + another say $5 for the tracking tools (of which there will be some) then if 1000 people sign up, he's making another 15K per month even if his adsense account gets banned. And there's probably way more than 1000 suckers out there.
From what I understand, all the income for the sites is from adsense. Loose the adsense, you loose the income. Tie some suckers in on a monthly basis and at least you keep some income.

paymentapprovaltooslow
Apr 28th 2005, 9:55 am
Why he is selling such information then if he is already earning millions per year.... LOL!!

Because he can make more money money that way. Nothing wrong with that I think.

khushal
May 17th 2005, 1:52 am
LOL cuz he wanna make us all rich.

Really!!!
Advise:Who earn millions wont let others earn millions!Neither would he tell all the tips that he applied himself!

blackpudding
May 17th 2005, 5:44 am
Because he can make more money money that way. Nothing wrong with that I think.
It's definately a scam and he's trying to make money by fleecing gullible people. Personally I think its pretty shi**y thing to do but some folks are too dumb to make money legally and have to resort to lies and deceit, and the bigger the lie the more likely the greedy will fall for it :rolleyes:

Cheers
BP

microtony
May 17th 2005, 6:06 am
Someone has already reported that this site is a SPAM.

Homer
May 17th 2005, 6:41 am
Indeed it is. Just spam...for the fun of it I signed up with one of my spam email addresses. Good old Hayden emails me daily with cu cu.

mopacfan
May 17th 2005, 6:42 am
I just got done reading this entire thread and it was hillarious. I do think that "educated" people are easily duped because they are so isolated in thier ivory towers that they just don't have a clue about how the rest of the world operates. I also think it's due in part to the "I'm so much superior to any of the little people" syndrome that blinds them to reality. Then again, they make a crapload more money than I do, so maybe it's time to go back to school ;)

Shoemoney
Jul 19th 2005, 11:41 am
i wanna see the check =P

GaryW
Jul 19th 2005, 4:12 pm
If it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck and quacks like a duck...!!!!

TooHappy
Jul 19th 2005, 7:55 pm
Yes! The check will tell all. We are now allowed to show our checks, so if you see a check for $45,000 and it's real, then that book would be the book to buy.

Unfortunately, there are many who will fall for this. It's forums like DP that help expose the charlatans!

Cyclops
Jul 19th 2005, 7:58 pm
Well the original poster never came back, thats always a good indication that it's spam.

If I was going to spam I would return and keep posting, I figure I would be able bluff my way through enough to pick up a few sales :D

Nitin M
Jul 19th 2005, 9:31 pm
We are now allowed to show our checks
I think I missed something. There was a thread not too long ago where people were openly posting their June adsense earnings and I thought it strange.... is this now allowed? I always thought discussing amounts earned was a TOS violation. Or was that part of the cange I just blindly clicked "accept" to?

prowess
Jul 19th 2005, 9:54 pm
I make about 7.00 a month...not a lot of visitors, and low paying words, but If I made 100 a month I'd crap myself, 40K a month? I bet not

PinoyIto
Jul 19th 2005, 10:45 pm
I make about 7.00 a month...not a lot of visitors, and low paying words, but If I made 100 a month I'd crap myself, 40K a month? I bet not

I guess 40K a month is possible depending on the traffic of your site.... if you have 20 sites making atleast $100 a day each then you make $60K a month

There are lot of people here in DP making that money from adsense, but they are just there observing and talk less.

Cyclops
Jul 19th 2005, 10:53 pm
There are lot of people here in DP making that money from adsense, but they are just there observing and talk less.I don't buy it....I hear the rubbish posted around the Forums about people earning huge amounts from adsense but have never seen documented evidence of anywhere near that amount.....

The people who do benefit are those in less developed countries where a few dollars from adsense is worth a whole lot more to them than places like the US.

Mia
Jul 19th 2005, 11:43 pm
A customer of mine does $35k/mo. It's a fact! It happens.

thuiswerk
Jul 19th 2005, 11:50 pm
There are people, i know some, that earn those amounts but if they brag about it they just want you to buy something from them!

Mike

TooHappy
Jul 20th 2005, 6:12 am
That's the key, bragging. If they are going around telling people on forums they're making big bucks, then chances are they are doing something that is spamish or just want attention. Whatever they are doing is probably not a long term solution and they need to milk the system before they run into problems.

Yes, some are legitimate, but they are few in numbers.

Tommo
Jul 20th 2005, 6:36 am
Is it just me ..but whenever i see a piece of marketting that starts with "Dear Friend" I just don't bother reading any further.

skattabrain
Jul 20th 2005, 9:25 am
There are lot of people here in DP making that money from adsense, but they are just there observing and talk less.

yup ... they are the ones that don't have 4,000 posts. typically they work the system and talk less about it ... forum posting all day is for tor those putting off what they really should be doing.

jlawrence
Jul 20th 2005, 9:53 am
If you've got 10 sites bringing in $100 each per day, what do you need to do :)
You sure as hell can afford to have someone else writing your content, so I suppose what they should be doing is sitting in the sun - nowt says you can't post from in the sun :D:D

Swordfish
Jul 20th 2005, 10:36 am
35k/mo not too shabby :)

Mia
Jul 20th 2005, 10:52 am
35k/mo not too shabby :)

Yes it is quite nice. However, he works pretty hard, has people who write content, and also uses adwords to promote many of his sites.

Personally I have taken the pay out nothing, or as little as possible route. I'm not doing too bad. I want little to no overhead. I've spent the last 8 + years making other people rich paying out money to telcos, etc., in my ISP business. NO MORE!!!

Googles76
Jul 20th 2005, 11:00 am
If you've got 10 sites bringing in $100 each per day, what do you need to do :)
You sure as hell can afford to have someone else writing your content, so I suppose what they should be doing is sitting in the sun - nowt says you can't post from in the sun :D:D

that wouldn't be too bad at all, but even 10 sites take a long time to get up to $100 per day. Currently my main site would need about 30x more traffic (assuming CTR stayed around the same) to get to that figure:D

TooHappy
Jul 20th 2005, 12:19 pm
Most people could be happy with $50 per day average. Anything above that is icing on the cake!

MattL
Jul 20th 2005, 1:30 pm
Most people could be happy with $50 per day average. Anything above that is icing on the cake!

What??? That's only $18,250 per year, hardly a full time income!

thuiswerk
Jul 20th 2005, 1:33 pm
What??? That's only $18,250 per year, hardly a full time income!


I think he means $50 per site......


Mike

MattL
Jul 20th 2005, 1:42 pm
I think he means $50 per site......


Mike

OH, that would be $182,500. Not a bad full time income :D

Cyclops
Jul 20th 2005, 5:54 pm
OH, that would be $182,500. Not a bad full time income :DI bet someone living in Mexico, India, Phillipines would love that income....just ask Fryman or Honey how well they would live on that amount :D .

fryman
Jul 20th 2005, 6:02 pm
The president earns less than that over here

Shoemoney
Jul 20th 2005, 6:44 pm
The president earns less than that over here

The President of the United States earns $400,000 a year.
The vice president's annual salary is $186,300.

Shoemoney
Jul 20th 2005, 6:45 pm
Yes! The check will tell all. We are now allowed to show our checks, so if you see a check for $45,000 and it's real, then that book would be the book to buy.

Unfortunately, there are many who will fall for this. It's forums like DP that help expose the charlatans!

are you honestly telling me you would buy a book from someone who has a 45k or more check?

what if someone had a 65k check? 90k?

just curious... Maybe it would be worth the risk to loose the account if you could sell a lot of books =P

TooHappy
Jul 20th 2005, 10:44 pm
are you honestly telling me you would buy a book from someone who has a 45k or more check?

If the person is making 45k Adsense and can prove it’s from legitimate site(s), I would not hesitate to purchase the book. One tidbit of information may be worth it.

Will a person making 45k sell a book and tell everyone how to do it? Chances are no. [Then again, someone here shared information about images over ads, so you never know].

Myself, I don’t buy into these types of books, especially when I can get all the information at DP and others. Some however, may not want to read a million posts to get the information and would rather buy an organized, concise how-to book. [I’m not saying this is such a book].


what if someone had a 65k check? 90k?

Same holds true.

just curious... Maybe it would be worth the risk to loose the account if you could sell a lot of books =P

How in the world would you loose your account for writing a book? You can post the amount of your check, just not the detailed stats.

antithesis_98
Jul 20th 2005, 10:54 pm
Is it just me ..but whenever i see a piece of marketting that starts with "Dear Friend" I just don't bother reading any further.

heh, it not just you:D

Shoemoney
Jul 20th 2005, 11:28 pm
How in the world would you loose your account for writing a book? You can post the amount of your check, just not the detailed stats.

I will tell you how in the world you could loose your account for posting your check.


1) people could easily put there info where yours is.

2) all your address and personal info is on there aswell as perhaps personal google information

3) People hate winners. If you were to post a 65k+ check to prove how leety you were you would become the bigest target. All these wannabes who write books and articles suddenly devote all there time to reporting all your sites to google finding some bs reason.

put those together and im guessing you would loose your account.

Now I am not a author but I am guessing none of these jokers that write the seo books or experts writing articles are bringing in that kind of money from a book.

I just dont see risking 800k+/yr for some small time book deal. Maybe I am looking at it all wrong.

TooHappy
Jul 21st 2005, 7:39 am
People hate winners. Maybe I am looking at it all wrong.

No, you are looking at it the right way and are correct. Chances are someone would become jealous and do something to sabotage your account.

I just was not looking at it from your point of view.

Thanks!

Tommo
Jul 21st 2005, 9:05 am
heh, it not just you:D


Love the blog antithesis_98

plmerlin
Jul 21st 2005, 9:31 am
lol. :p I was ALMOST fooled into Vector Marketing's program. AKA steak-knife selling. A quick G search was enough for me to bail out of that tramcar to hell.
I got caught some 25 years ago, I was in college. It was not extinguishers and unfortunately G was not yet born...:rolleyes:
I got out of the program after my first "money making conference" when I realized that the big "money makers" were renting their cars... I lost some $100 (much needed) nothing compared to some real believers.

exaro
Jul 21st 2005, 10:16 am
Dont mean to kill the thread, but I just added a picture banner over some of my ads, and wanted to know what people thought about the design... check it out here

http://exaro.org

TooHappy
Jul 21st 2005, 10:40 am
Looks great! One typo is 'The he gets' should be 'Then he gets'.

Nice joke by the way :)

use_your_equity
Jul 21st 2005, 7:16 pm
It's a joke. Maybe if you owned 10,000 sites all with adsense on them..

skattabrain
Jul 21st 2005, 7:33 pm
It's a joke. Maybe if you owned 10,000 sites all with adsense on them..

don't think so small.

if you can make a site make $10 a day ... make 100 sites. but most serious about their adsense are doing 3 digits with a handful of sites ... so making a grand a day is as easy as repeating the process until you get there. you need automation ... automated/dyanmic content or content that gets created by your members ... like a forums.

i think a lot of the naysayers are the typical 4-10 page web site owners ... if that's what you do then yeah ... it is tough to believe many are doing better then $5 a day. you'd be better off removing adsense completely from your site and bettering your image.

Shoemoney
Jul 22nd 2005, 8:49 am
It's a joke. Maybe if you owned 10,000 sites all with adsense on them..

only takes 1... 1 really good one

skattabrain
Jul 22nd 2005, 9:15 am
but if you make that kind of money ... and only have 1 site ... you better be duplicating the process ... you could find yourself wiped out 1 eventful and painful day.

YoByte
Jul 22nd 2005, 10:28 am
http://www.revenueinsider seems to be the usual crap....


I had been searching for free keywords on many sites......


the above sites happened to be one among the crap sites i have visited.....

Yo Byte

I, Brian
Jul 22nd 2005, 10:53 am
40K is doable, but it would probably take a good dose of both vision and programming to to achieve on any profitable level.

It's also worth pointing out that there's a big difference between revenue and profit. I think there's an old business saying - "Income's for vanity, profit for sanity"

MattL
Jul 22nd 2005, 12:16 pm
40K is doable, but it would probably take a good dose of both vision and programming to to achieve on any profitable level.

It's also worth pointing out that there's a big difference between revenue and profit. I think there's an old business saying - "Income's for vanity, profit for sanity"

Agreed. people only tend to see gross numbers. Someone could do 40K per month and spend 37K on Adwords to get it.

Shoemoney
Jul 22nd 2005, 12:48 pm
40K is doable, but it would probably take a good dose of both vision and programming to to achieve on any profitable level.

It's also worth pointing out that there's a big difference between revenue and profit. I think there's an old business saying - "Income's for vanity, profit for sanity"

hmm server expenses are pretty cheap. I pay less then 1k/month for my server expenses.

I probably have about 1k budgeted for advertising.

I do 99% of server admin/programing myself.

Course adsense isnt my primary source of income but rather user subscriptions.

MattL
Jul 22nd 2005, 1:01 pm
hmm server expenses are pretty cheap. I pay less then 1k/month for my server expenses.

I probably have about 1k budgeted for advertising.

I do 99% of server admin/programing myself.

Course adsense isnt my primary source of income but rather user subscriptions.

My point and I think his was 40k gross a month could mean 37k net or 3k net. Big difference!

I, Brian
Jul 22nd 2005, 1:21 pm
Indeed - I know of people can can reach near that figure, but they do have an awfully advanced set up and costs.

Also, this article may be of interest:
http://www.threadwatch.org/node/3227

The gist of it - 250,000 domains registered per week for AdSense potential, with those deemed non-profitably returned under automated 5 day grace period.

Automated, automated, automated...

wissam
Jul 23rd 2005, 2:54 am
any way it's so easy to reach that amount of money by building a good website and forgetting about making money for a while , it's better then spamming and scamming around ...

skattabrain
Jul 23rd 2005, 7:46 am
any way it's so easy to reach that amount of money by building a good website and forgetting about making money for a while , it's better then spamming and scamming around ...

i couldn't disagree more.

to make those kind of dollars you have to be constantly thinking and coming up with ways ... the formula you jsut mentioned won't make you that kind of money. that's a pipe dream unless you have extremely high traffic sites ... and again, you get that way from planning.

Googles76
Jul 23rd 2005, 7:52 am
This is interesting discussion. I have found myself also moving towards more automated way of making and managing websites. I am now experimenting with things like postnuke and php rss feeds that can be used to setup a skeleton for a website and would make adding content a breeze. Gone are the days where you have to manually add content to your html websites that takes a lot of time. It is still alright to do it that way, but if your goal is to keep pumping out websites fast, than it is better to use dynamic pages.

skattabrain
Jul 23rd 2005, 8:11 am
yeah, let's close this thread now ... too much info has been given. :)

girl
Jul 23rd 2005, 8:16 am
it was interesting though!

Mia
Jul 23rd 2005, 10:19 am
Agreed. people only tend to see gross numbers. Someone could do 40K per month and spend 37K on Adwords to get it.

Great point! That is where the big money makers are getting their high numbers. They are spending money to make it. I set out to make it, without spending a dime. So far, so good.

Shoemoney
Jul 23rd 2005, 10:23 am
Great point! That is where the big money makers are getting their high numbers. They are spending money to make it. I set out to make it, without spending a dime. So far, so good.

I totally disagree. I think most people making more then 10k a month have less then 1% overhead.

skattabrain
Jul 23rd 2005, 11:26 am
on my earnings ... i pay $25 a month for my reseller hosting account. oh yeah ... the $10-15 to register each of the 10 domains.

other than that .. i pay nothing.

but i could hire some hands to clone my process over and over again like a sweat shop.

alang
Jul 23rd 2005, 11:31 am
I spend USD 100.00, get USD 3,000.00

So its about 3% overhead

Googles76
Jul 23rd 2005, 12:10 pm
I spend USD 100.00, get USD 3,000.00

So its about 3% overhead

Is this for adsense? There was a discussion earlier about using adwords to fuel adsense earnings and I believe that the most people could do is break even. Any tips on where to spend advertising dollars?

Shoemoney
Jul 23rd 2005, 12:12 pm
ok here is the big thing... the poeple that are making over 10k that I am refering to are not advertising anywhere... they just have huge well known sites.

Cyclops
Jul 23rd 2005, 7:16 pm
ok here is the big thing... the poeple that are making over 10k that I am refering to are not advertising anywhere... they just have huge well known sites.Which is totally different to throwing together a made for adsense site.

I was surprised to see that a well known news site now has adsense on it, that site would have close to a million visitors a day......it would be interesting to see how many people click on the adsense ads on that site as people go there to check out the latest news......they are not looking for anything specific or looking to buy anything.

Incidently the adsense is just in one box on the side of the page which is how it should be, unobtrusive yet you still see it.

Googles76
Jul 23rd 2005, 8:09 pm
Incidently the adsense is just in one box on the side of the page which is how it should be, unobtrusive yet you still see it.

This is ideal...for a huge site, but most webmasters just can't afford to do that. Small-timers like myself need the highest CTR possible:)

Shoemoney
Jul 23rd 2005, 9:08 pm
This is ideal...for a huge site, but most webmasters just can't afford to do that. Small-timers like myself need the highest CTR possible:)


Its not they can afford to do it its they are stupid =)

They are in the business to make money just like you ;)

fhelik
Feb 4th 2008, 12:31 am
What I think? I think this is SPAM.

devsaha
Dec 21st 2008, 9:26 am
what the hell is this ??? 43,500 dlrs in a month . even joel comm doesnt make that money from adsense

clickthegoogle
Dec 21st 2008, 9:43 am
This is definitely a span!! no doubt !!

Flashnest
Dec 21st 2008, 7:54 pm
I think only a simpleton would even bother clicking on the link to read more......