View Full Version : Why do people remove traded links??
asmodeus
May 6th 2009, 2:59 pm
I'm getting really frustrated lately with the high amount of people removing my link after the trade, thinking that I wont look or notice. There have been 4 different users here who have pulled this crap just last month alone!
To the honest people looking to establish good trades, please make sure you check your links to see if they are still up on the sites you trade with here. Don't just assume they will stay. There have been members who seem honest who have pulled this as well.
And to the people who remove the links, I know you're doing it thinking you get more PR juice when it becomes a one-way link to your site, but its really sleazy. If you don't want the link on your site anymore, then have the courtesy to inform the trader so he can remove yours as well.
Do the right thing for a change.
chilllinkbuilding
May 6th 2009, 3:19 pm
I find this happens a lot and like you, it really frustrates me. I used to do a lot of trading with people on forums such as this but found a really high rate of link removals. I got to the point where I wouldn't trade with anyone who wouldn't send me a personal email. I figure if they don't want me to have their email address, I'm not going to bother. I came back today to start over and saw your message, looks like it's still an issue :-(
Email me at chilllinkbuilding@yahoo.com . I don't remove links and the 2 sites I am exchanging links for currently have PR5 and PR6 homepages. However, I am only interested in trading links with sites relevant to graphic design and other B2B services.
I'm getting really frustrated lately with the high amount of people removing my link after the trade, thinking that I wont look or notice. There have been 4 different users here who have pulled this crap just last month alone!
To the honest people looking to establish good trades, please make sure you check your links to see if they are still up on the sites you trade with here. Don't just assume they will stay. There have been members who seem honest who have pulled this as well.
And to the people who remove the links, I know you're doing it thinking you get more PR juice when it becomes a one-way link to your site, but its really sleazy. If you don't want the link on your site anymore, then have the courtesy to inform the trader so he can remove yours as well.
Do the right thing for a change.
stinker
May 6th 2009, 3:57 pm
well, some of the 'traders' do not even understands what you or i or someone say and what requirements you stated (english language issue),
... or understands in the way they want to... ;)
But usually it isn't hard to understand even from the first pm who is who.
I find very comfortable to monitor backlinks - use online reciprocal checkers.
I use that one http://tools.seobook.com/general/link-check/
(im not promoting anything or exactly this one, you can google and may find better, i just got it in my first search and im satisfied)
Simply paste urls from txt file to a field for that, then type your site name, and see all in one page who has it and who cheats. Very easy, no need to look in each page.
Im still lucky with my several partners - all are honest. But if someone do a bulk exchanges, i think all happens.
Another tip is to check if it is not set as 'nofollow', i bet thats really happens a lot too, just that thing is not so visible.
adamgookey
May 7th 2009, 2:39 pm
It's cause people want all the link juice/value without really having to give any back. Link exchange is worthless mainly cause the amount of hassle is not worth the link values.
richromo
May 7th 2009, 3:18 pm
This problem is not about this forum but about the web in general. I used to trade links, as did a lot of sites until about 18 months ago. I went through my link pages and lo and behold was I shocked and disappointed. Fully 50% of the links were no longer reciprocated without any notice to me. Like a fool I emailed everyone of the previous reciprocal link "partners" and got a few responses saying "sorry, we couldn't find our link"- which was a flat lie as I was looking at it. Most other did not bother responding, and why would they- what would they say? So I deleted the non reciprocal partners, and I check my links every 30 days or so. I have to remove a couple each time but I don't email them anymore-why bother?
Google made it clear that it does not favor reciprocal as it is an attempt to manipulate the serps, but also unless you are meticulous your reciprocal links will often become one way links.
waxman1000
May 7th 2009, 3:21 pm
I think they just are dishonest and wicked. I mean it is the internet and everything is possible
asmodeus
May 7th 2009, 4:15 pm
But this is true even of 3 way (non recip) links. I had several of those go sour as well.
I'm thinking it might be a good idea to "name and shame" the cheaters on one of my webmaster sites. I know its against the rules to post the names on DP, but I can do what I want on my own sites, right? Or would that just make me look like a bitter asshole?? What do you think...good idea or not??
charter
May 7th 2009, 5:01 pm
Count me as one who no longer bothers to exchange links. A lot of work for little lasting value.
rufus618
May 7th 2009, 6:32 pm
This problem is not about this forum but about the web in general. I used to trade links, as did a lot of sites until about 18 months ago. I went through my link pages and lo and behold was I shocked and disappointed. Fully 50% of the links were no longer reciprocated without any notice to me. Like a fool I emailed everyone of the previous reciprocal link "partners" and got a few responses saying "sorry, we couldn't find our link"- which was a flat lie as I was looking at it. Most other did not bother responding, and why would they- what would they say? So I deleted the non reciprocal partners, and I check my links every 30 days or so. I have to remove a couple each time but I don't email them anymore-why bother?
Google made it clear that it does not favor reciprocal as it is an attempt to manipulate the serps, but also unless you are meticulous your reciprocal links will often become one way links.
hi guy, you can use software to check out back links to help you
altesino
May 7th 2009, 6:36 pm
That's one of the main reasons not to trade links. Just focus on one way links. Its faster and more powerful!
sultanofseo
May 7th 2009, 7:22 pm
because they are crooks, thats why.
mrandrei
May 7th 2009, 7:31 pm
Many webmasters these days are just irresponsible and will delete your link without prior notice, so I carefully choose my link partners. Doing link exchanges is very tricky!
[J]ames
May 8th 2009, 1:00 am
I am also considering of stopping link exchange, the hassle is just too big, i had removed like 80% of my links so far because they have placed lot of links irresponsibly, linking to all the bad websites and scams, etc and some of them remove the links so you have to keep checking them etc... some even wanted to trade links and their homepage had a nofollow attribute on the link or they denied bots to crawl from robots.txt... so i am seriously thinking to remove all links and just forget it... at first i was optimistic but too many scammers/careless people will get me to close the links section for good... or maybe i will just leave it open for high reputable pages or something... will think soon but i plan to close in a month or something =\
juragandollar
May 8th 2009, 1:51 am
I have site with PR3...if you want put link in my site ( walkforwater.org)....just $20 permanent.....trust me Thanks
fadetoblack22
May 8th 2009, 1:58 am
When you do the deal tell them that you check the link location regulary so if they remove your link you will remove theirs.
renlok
May 8th 2009, 2:24 am
Yeah i dont bother trading links anymore. I think its just because alot of people are just jerks. :(
scottlpool2003
May 11th 2009, 1:14 am
To be honest, i've removed links accidentally a few times through stupidity.
Once I did it when I completely changed the layout of my one of my sites and had no clue what the backlinks were.
Another was when I was checking inlinks and couldn't find my link on their site forgetting that it was 3 way.
asmodeus
May 11th 2009, 7:14 am
To be honest, i've removed links accidentally a few times through stupidity.
Once I did it when I completely changed the layout of my one of my sites and had no clue what the backlinks were.
Another was when I was checking inlinks and couldn't find my link on their site forgetting that it was 3 way.
That almost happened to me last week. I moved a site to another server and imported the xml file in WP and everything looked ok except the blogroll links weren't there. I had to go to Google cache to see how it should look! lol
Vigor
May 11th 2009, 7:29 am
I recently checked all my link exchange links for a site of mine. 90% of the links to my site dissapeared! So in a rage i just deleted all of their links :(
coox132
May 11th 2009, 8:47 am
Wow so should link exchanges even be trusted? I'm new to websites and all so I'm still learning all the possiblitys of getting traffic to your site so would it be recommended to use link exchanges or not
Thanks,
John
tikky1234
May 11th 2009, 10:41 am
Link exchange is very time consuming. You might want to try submitting to directories instead.
coox132
May 11th 2009, 11:30 am
Do directlys actually get you much traffic to your site though?
Thanks,
John
coox132
May 11th 2009, 11:30 am
Do directorys actually get you much traffic to your site though?
Thanks,
John
coox132
May 11th 2009, 11:44 am
Do directorys actually get you much traffic to your site though?
Thanks,
John
TamaraD
May 11th 2009, 4:05 pm
Wow so should link exchanges even be trusted? I'm new to websites and all so I'm still learning all the possiblitys of getting traffic to your site so would it be recommended to use link exchanges or not
Thanks,
John
I'm wondering the same thing...with such
a high rate of people removing your link
after the agreement has been set...it
appears to be a waste of time and energy.
Are one-way links the best way to go?
KuduKudu
May 11th 2009, 10:04 pm
Buy links than trading.
scottlpool2003
May 12th 2009, 1:47 am
To be honest, I don't exchange links any more. This is only because it's more hassle than it's worth. Generating backlinks on forums/blogs/articles etc is so much easier and it's 1 way too! Less outlinks * more inlinks = higher search engine position.
stinker
May 13th 2009, 3:03 pm
To be honest, I don't exchange links any more. This is only because it's more hassle than it's worth. Generating backlinks on forums/blogs/articles etc is so much easier and it's 1 way too! Less outlinks * more inlinks = higher search engine position.
lol, good point mentioned :)
After reading this i probably too will stop searching for exchanges...
BTW: about nofollow - just in case some one don't know this, i found handy mozilla add-on DoNoFollow. When plug-in is on, highlights links in different colours follow and nofollow. No need to go to page souce. Saves a lot of time while checking.
shameem2008
May 14th 2009, 12:18 am
This really frustrate me also
rennee
May 14th 2009, 12:56 am
Be clear with the things before trading the links. Mention them that their link will be live till your 's will be live on their site.
dan2008
May 14th 2009, 2:41 am
They are are dishonest and maybe they believe you forgot about your link.
matrixsoftwarez
May 14th 2009, 2:46 am
In most cases if the site is sold then the new owner removes all links. And i agree with the new owner if he doesn't want a bunch of links on his front page and want to build backlinks through another way.
scottlpool2003
May 15th 2009, 5:02 am
Yeah the Firefox Dofollow addon is a good tool, I don't use it though because it makes the page look untidy and takes my attention away from what I'm actually doing. I don't even check for Nofollow, I just post and hope for the best! I can manage about 250 backlinks/day so I just assume that at least 200 of them will be Dofollow.
scottwood1986
May 15th 2009, 9:05 am
Are people still exchanging links these days? I thought that Google were pretty clear reciprocal linking was frowned upon?
david01
May 15th 2009, 10:39 am
I am also Link Builder But I don't Like to Delete Links and i always make excel and check weekly:)
scottlpool2003
May 15th 2009, 11:56 am
I am also Link Builder But I don't Like to Delete Links and i always make excel and check weekly:)
Yeah that's a good way to keep track, suppose I should have done that in the first place. I don't have outbound links any more, but if I ever come to have them again, I'll not be lazy and keep a spreadsheet.
hmansfield
May 15th 2009, 12:23 pm
Because link exchanges suck. I stopped even responding to people requesting a link exchange months ago. It's mostly noobs anyway looking for a way to beat the system. I have even seen people post threads about doing it like it is some big technique to build back links.
Rest in the comfort that their website and blog is so weak that the only way they can get any links is to lie, trick and steal them.
You shouldn't be mad at them, you should feel sad for them.
DKS404
May 15th 2009, 12:44 pm
This is why i don't bother with link exchanges... the value isn't all that great and nobody is honest these days.
marcel
May 15th 2009, 12:45 pm
Trading links makes no sense. Buy your links. Pay for a full year or month by month.
Joseph Letzelter
May 16th 2009, 3:07 am
I checked all my link exchange links in my site. most of the links to my site dissapeared! So i just deleted all of their links
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