EuroNaughts The President needs your help!

[anthonycea]

Well guys since we are all so close I wanted to let you Euro's and the rest of our international members in on the news, President Bush is interested in learning more about how much money you have in the bank, taking it all on oil is not enough :eek:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002237065_terror10.html

It's all good, as long as we think you are :p :o :p

[T0PS3O]

They'll find nothing but big $$$ coming INTO our accounts from AdSense and Amazon :D

But it's no surprise the reptiles enforce this. Another step closer to their world government.

[anthonycea]

Bankers and OilMen SUCK, they are the destruction of the entire world :eek:

Paul Wolfowitz as head of the World Bank, what a joke, they are not even hiding the fact that we are going into WWIII soon. :eek:

[GTech]

I believe this is what you are disappointed in, Anthony:

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=news60405&Category=news&Subcategory=0

Here's a few more.


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/12/121909.shtml

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=publications3404&Category=publications&Subcategory=0

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=inthenews6204&Category=inthenews&Subcategory=0

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=news11804&Category=news&Subcategory=0

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=inthenews502&Category=inthenews&Subcategory=0

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=news16004&Category=news&Subcategory=0

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=news30204&Category=news&Subcategory=0

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=news63705&Category=news&Subcategory=0

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=news30704&Category=news&Subcategory=0

http://siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=news54904&Category=news&Subcategory=0

[anthonycea]

Just another reason for folks to quit doing business with America GTech, you support that along with exporting jobs to China and Bush stealing money on oil. :eek:

I understand your problems well :o

[GTech]

Would that mean you support terrorists? We covered exporting jobs and the dramatic positive impact it made on our economy and how it creates new jobs. You made it very clear then that you were against creating new better paying jobs for Americans and against the financial benefits. Typical democrat, always trying to keep Americans down.

You mean the United Nations stealing oil money? Because that's been in the headlines for the past year (I'm sure you've seen it ;) ). But I've seen nothing regarding Bush stealing oil money. What reference can you provide to support that?

I'm all for going after terror financing. I'm just surprised that you are not. Maybe there's something about you we don't know.

[anthonycea]

GTech your vain attempts at Republican propaganda have never worked here and no where else in all probability, you are just no good at it really and should stick to building websites :p

PS: Did you notice that your hero's (Cheney and Bush) approval rating is near 40% now and that they are "well done lame duck now"?

PSS: Gas hit $4.00 a gallon in Texas yet :confused: :eek: :p

[GTech]

No, I didn't notice that. But I did notice you avoided the question about whether you support terrorists, and what reference you could provide about bush stealing oil. I did notice you avoided the UN (as usual - you seem to support the real oil thieves).

And I noticed you added "propaganda" to yet another post, increasing the number of posts on the forum that have the word "propaganda" and were written by Anthony.

Impressive ;)

[anthonycea]

Did you cut and paste that last post from your Word Processor GTech :confused:

It seems that it is not original and I have seen the same post many times:p

I can answer all your questions with a few words, ready?

Enron and Halliburton = Bush family friends :eek:

[GTech]

PSS: Gas hit $4.00 a gallon in Texas yet :confused: :eek: :p

Really? Not where I live. But you are probably gullible enough to think it's Bush's fault. Heh!

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050401/bs_afp/commoditiesenergyoil_050401231928

For someone so obcessed with oil, I often wonder how you have so much outrage for fantasy stories, but not for those guilty of stealing oil money. It baffles science.

[GTech]

Did you cut and paste that last post from your Word Processor GTech :confused:

OK, so you do support terrists. It's not like I'm really surprised or anything.

If it's bad for America, it's good for Anthony.

[anthonycea]

Come on GTech, that is cut and paste propaganda also, you have posted that many times and can do much better, you can surely gather facts from sources other than the RNC list of approved websites, cant you :confused:

[anthonycea]

Quoted from GTech's article from Yahoo:

But he said another factor was the Goldman Sachs report on Thursday, which raised the possibility of a "superspike" in crude oil to as high as 105 dollars a barrel.

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This is all because of the idiots in the Bush Administration, as I have been telling everyone, they will surely destroy America and the world with their idiotic policies.

That is all the world has heard since those jackass Republicans stole the 2000 elections is that oil prices are going up and that we need more money for the war :p :p :p

[GTech]

I'm quite confident if it really were Bush's fault (and it's not), every liberal paper in the country would be whinning and crying about it much more than you do. But the truth is, it's not, and you know it. Bush has no more control over oil prices than Clinton did. If Clinton couldn't lower them, how can you expect Bush to?

Interesting, two times you've had the opportunity to say you don't support terrorists and both times you avoided it. Tells me what me what I need to know.

[anthonycea]

The terrorists are not the larger problem GTech, the problem is the Bush Administration that is completely destroying this nation and the world's economy and that will have a greater effect in increasing terror worldwide as it did before Germany started WW2 by telling it's citizens that they would put a chicken in everyone's pots and food on the table if they would just fight for Hitler.

When folks get hungry and they are poor that makes government weaker GTech.

But who would expect one like you who supports economic destruction to understand things like this :confused:

You just can't see the big picture of what happens to the average person when you let the guys at the top steal can you Gtech (Enron took the retirements of thousands of families)?

Let's be honest, few trust Bush and "Halliburton Cheney" in this country GTech and you do know that for a fact.

[GTech]

I see average people every day. I see them in new trucks, new cars, buying new homes. I see them at Walmart buying groceries, I see them on Digital Point helping others learn how to be successful. I see them at Church, at the Mall, at restaurants.

I see you portraying yourself and the American people as victims everyday. Nothing could be further from the truth. Just like most things you post, there is no truth. You wished these things were true, perhaps. You wished the Treasury Department was NOT successful in dismantling the finances of terrorist networks. Me, I'm quite content. I'm glad Bush is taking things seriously. I'm glad the Treasury Department is cutting off funds of terrorists. I can understand why you would be disappointed in that. If it's good for American, it's bad for you.

Let the Enrons and Martha Stewarts and many other companies that have taken from others pay for their crimes. I won't defend them, and I won't defend terrorists. Let the criminals that Clinton pardon and then were caught again, pay their dues (again).

[anthonycea]

Remember what Warren Buffet and Alan Greenspan said GTech and don't force me to post it again.

Remember these FACTS also that are a result of Bush Policies:

Record Oil Prices

Patriot Act

Record Trade deficits

Record Budget deficits

Weak Dollar that is forcing inflation

You refuse to see the truth GTech but as always are useful in causing the truth to be posted in these threads by your hard headedness. :o

[GTech]

I'm not the one portraying Americans as poverty stricken. I'm not the one disappointed in fighting terrorism. I'm not the one disappointed in the Treasury Department for cutting off funding for terrorists. I'm not the one delusional enough to think Bush can control oil prices when the rest of the world knows OPEC does.

Too bad you are disappointed in all these things. If you were President, it sounds like you would give money to terrorists groups, give the United Nations a pat on the back for stealing oil and oil money, congratulate the countries that saddam bought out with oil money.

I see real people every day Anthony. Americans are not victims, stop trying to portray everyone as a victim. Just because you choose to be a victim of everything known to man, doesn't mean the rest of us are.

[anthonycea]

The end result, the bottom line is that America is hated worldwide because of Bush Family leadership and the entire world economy and the banking system is on the verge of collapse, Alan Greenspan and investors understand this.

Most traders are short the American dollar for a reason GTech, that reason is they have no confidence in the American government under Bush and his daddy.

You can't blame investors for that can you GTech :confused:

After all they have watched the results of Bush Senior before and now with Junior and Bush Senior administrators (Halliburton) in there running the show, they expect the worst again. :p

Selling short America is a sure winning investment :p

[GTech]

Really? I thought the bottom line was, you were disappointed in the Treasury Department cutting off financing to terrorists. I would have never guessed it was because you were so concerned about how American is hated. After all, we still give huge financial support to many of these "so called" countries that hate us. I say we just stop funding them. I bet that would stir the stick up!

www.theskyisfalling.com

Oh the self pity and victimization :rolleyes:

[GTech]

I'll be darn, while reading and responding to Anthony's usual doom and gloom self-victimization, I just made a hotel affiliate sale :)

Oh, the doom and gloom!

[anthonycea]

Thanks for posting that link to the "sky is falling", too bad I did not invest in Oil futures when Bush Stole the elections in 2000. :(

I would bet many Billionaires were made on that sure bet of an investment. :)

I must be a fool not to play a sure thing like that, just think GTech, I could be on Bush's side if I went "Long" on Oil in 2000. :confused:

GTech, since I am still poor with the majority of Americans I must go do some work, but it is always good to debate with you my friend :o

[GTech]

Cool, I didn't know you had a job :)

Yep, you could have got in on that UN oil deal and made billions like so many corrupted leaders around the world did. Then pretend it didn't happen!

[anthonycea]

Your right, I should be a Republican like you, then I could steal Oil money without having to go to jail, man I should have got in back in 1974 with Nixon and Kissinger, what a fool I am to try to make money working :mad: :o

[GTech]

Yep, you should have worked for the UN, or one of those countries saddam bought out with oil. Then you could have gotten your fair share of oil vouchers. After all, you're doing all the same work they do, but not getting any oil vouchers for it. It's gotta be disappointing :D

Heck, for that matter, you could go to foriegn countries and rape little girls, hook your son up with a huge Oil for Food company position to get free money. The corruption is at your finger tips.

[ferret77]

We covered exporting jobs and the dramatic positive impact it made on our economy and how it creates new jobs.

I was just curious how exporting jobs creates new jobs? Is it like service jobs? I outsource stuff to india, for awhile one of my firends worked for me, but when business was slow I didn't have enough work for him. So I rather then hire someone in the states, I hired some people in India. How what does this possiblly help anyone but me and the indians?

[GTech]

There was a long discussion here:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=12598&page=8&pp=10&highlight=outsourcing

[anthonycea]

GTech I like you new slogan in place of your signature, when are you going to find yours :confused: :o :D :)

[GTech]

I found it already, once post above me.

[debunked]

Gtech, You really need to quit confusing him with the facts! The poor guy will go berzerk and end up bombing someone. Be careful with him he may go at anytime!!! :eek:

[anthonycea]

Nice post Debunked, but your the one that would do something insane like that or you would not have made such a silly post :o

PS: Gtech I am starting to like you :cool:

[debunked]

Nope, not me....

Would never go and attack the government. I personally agree with gtech for most of what he has stated on this thread.

Anthony you should grow crops on your land for use in alternative fuels. Do something positive with your anger. Make a change for the better. Do something, but stop pointing fingers and complaining!

[anthonycea]

It is a stupid post Debunked to even mention something like that in a thread that will be spidered, I don't care if you agree with GTech or not if you want the truth, your post is out of place.

[GTech]

PS: Gtech I am starting to like you :cool:

Maybe I'll be able to convince you GW Bush is not out to steal your can of 10w40!

[debunked]

It is a stupid post Debunked to even mention something like that in a thread that will be spidered, I don't care if you agree with GTech or not if you want the truth, your post is out of place.

You lost me, what are you refering to in the last post? Are you saying that "stop complaining" is out of place???

[ferret77]

I feel like I missed out on the outsourcing debate

gtech the article you quote

Released Tuesday, it was prepared by research firm Global Insight and sponsored by the Information Technology Association of America trade group.

ITAA's members include tech giants IBM, Electronic Data Systems and Accenture. These companies are among those that are locating operations in lower-wage countries such as India.

Its information was provided by a group of outsourcers, you know anythony when you argue with someone its often effective to poke holes in their references.

Out sourcing more menial tech jobs sounds good, but those are the jobs people usually get right out of school. Without them, building a base of experience is sort of difficult. You can't just jump right into software developmentat the top level.

There are some entertaining comments on the bottom of the cnet article too

http://earthlink.com.com/5208-1022-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=186&messageID=714&start=-150

[GTech]

There's not of a hole to poke. A better hole to poke would be information that contradicts it.

It's easy to say "hey, they are a liberal paper" or "that publication is for this, that, the other, so it cannot be correct."

Disputing the source is the easy way out. Disputing the facts presented is the challenge.

[anthonycea]

Ferret, GTech knows better but he would defend the Republicans if Nixon came back from the grave and stole money on gas that you needed to feed your new born baby.

Manufacturing is what made this nation great and lack of manufacturing jobs will destroy this nation and has made us a country of slaves indebted to China and Japan as we buy most of our goods offshore now.

Why is China booming :confused:

Very simple to figure that all the manufacturing jobs are there now, in addition GTech knows that IT jobs are also moving offshore so companies can do away with paying wages and benefits to Americans.

Don't fall for hype presented by the Republicans.

[GTech]

Anthony, I'm not obcessed with Nixon the way you are. His presidency was long ago, and the man is dead.

There you go painting Americans as victims again! Man alive, you gotta stop eating that government cheese.

Now you're flip flopping to manufacturing from IT. And still probably have no clue that America has outsourced jobs since at least the early 1900's.

Gloom, despair, and agony on me.

www.monster.com

There's your manufacturing and IT jobs.

[anthonycea]

Well all "The Nixon Boys" are running the Bush Administration GTech, Bush himself is one of them and you know that.

Do you want me to prove that or will you disprove it :confused:

[GTech]

You must have thought I cared? It's your obcession with Nixon when you can't prove bush is stealing the can of 10w40 out of your garage. It's a side-tracker at best.

Here's another good one for you pea brain to grasp:

http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2454530


•Although America's economy has, overall, lost jobs since the start of the decade, the vast majority of these job losses are cyclical in nature, not structural. Now that the economy is recovering after the recession of 2001, so will the job picture, perhaps dramatically, over the next year.

•Outsourcing (or “offshoring”) has been going on for centuries, but still accounts for a tiny proportion of the jobs constantly being created and destroyed within America's economy. Even at the best of times, the American economy has a tremendous rate of “churn”—over 2m jobs a month. In all, the process creates many more jobs than it destroys: 24m more during the 1990s. The process allocates resources—money and people—to where they can be most productive, helped by competition, including from outsourcing, that lowers prices. In the long run, higher productivity is the only way to create higher standards of living across an economy.


Read the whole article, it's quite illuminating. I know you need an excuse to proclaim "victim...victim here, I'm a victim!" but really don't have a clue.

Outsourcing has been going on for a very, very long time Anthony. To jump up and cry victim because it is (even when Bush signed into law no more federal outsourcing overseas) continued on throughout the past century is childish.

If you have so much outrage over outsourcing, you should be whining about Clinton, Bush 1, Reagan, Carter, .....all the way back.

If you have so much outrage over oil, you should be screaming about the UN.

What does all this tell me? Your outrage is a political convenience and not sincere. You don't care about the issues, you just use them to portray American as victims. Truly sad.

[anthonycea]

Don't make me pull the Warren Buffett card GTech, you know what he said about America becoming a nation of sharecroppers, are you going to tell me the best investor in the history of the world does not know what he is talking about?

[GTech]

Doom and gloom Anthony, doom and gloom.

Far be it from you to actually read up on a source of information that addresses the fake concerns you have.

Warren Buffet may have communicated a few things you hope will come true. That's about the only reason you drop his name.

Read the article Anthony. Just read, for once in your life :)

[Lever]

There are some entertaining comments on the bottom of the cnet article too

http://earthlink.com.com/5208-1022-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=186&messageID=714&start=-150I thought the Outsourcing is complicated - but bad for US (http://earthlink.com.com/5208-1022-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=186&messageID=871&start=-150) post was well put...

[Solicitors Mortgages]

incidentally, how much is a gallon of fuel in texas?

85 pence per LITRE here.... thats $1.70 per LITRE !!!!

i bet yours is that for a whole gallon?

[anthonycea]

They are paying $3.50 a gallon in California thanks to the Bush & Ken Lay Foundations. :o

[debunked]

prices in Oregon are now about 2.50 per gallon and usually parts of california are as much as .20 higher and parts of New York also.

[GTech]

They are paying $3.50 a gallon in California thanks to the Bush & Ken Lay Foundations. :o

You probably believe that too!

You can fix ignorance, but you can't fix stupid!

[debunked]

Enron flourished under Clintons Watch and was caught under ???? Watch

Forget it, I wouldn't want to confuse someone with the FACTS................

[anthonycea]

Really, then why did Bush and Cheney hide the fact that they formulated their energy policy with Ken Lay in secret when they first took office Debunked :confused:

Cheney still hides the records from those meetings and Ken Lay has never done any time :o