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pawlala
Apr 10th 2005, 8:00 am
Hi everyone :)

I recently (a week ago) requested reinstatement to my categories as a Dmoz editor and as yet received nothing. I'm quite keen on getting on with adding several new links but still haven't been accepted :o

Does anyone know how long reinstatement takes these days? Any other info would be great :)

Paula

l234244
Apr 10th 2005, 9:20 am
Might get a better response over at resource-zone.com

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 10:15 am
Might get a better response over at resource-zone.com
Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Hee-hee-hoo! Ha! Ho! :D :D

Oh, geeze!! God, that was funny! Thanks!!! :o

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 10:27 am
Come on now Minstrel, he did use the keyword = might :o :p :p :D

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 10:34 am
Admit it, AC. The man is a natural born comedian! :D

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 10:36 am
This human edited directory crap is exactly that :eek:

In the day of the search engine what the hell are we even doing talking about this crap :confused:

Blagger
Apr 10th 2005, 5:22 pm
Apart from the fractional PR boost given for being listed in Dmoz, does it really make much difference to SERPS?

They seem like a right shower to me, so I might as well just give up on the idea of ever getting listed, and hope it doesn't matter as much as people claim it does.

Solicitors Mortgages
Apr 10th 2005, 5:30 pm
yes .... it does matter, dmoz has something like 4 million backlinks,
serp's........ every little helps.
not many people search thru dmoz...usually your competitors
your site will get listed as soon as you fill it up ;)
teehee..... :)

i have sites listed that were never even submitted ...woohoo !!

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 5:35 pm
It's still just another backlink. And yes, I know the links are mirrored on several other sites but I'm not so sure thise mirrors carry the weight people believe they do.

Either way, there are many other ways to get the backlinks, and all of the other ways are far less agravating than submitting to DMOZ.

By all means submit your site. Then hold your nose and back out slowly and get on with your life.

mjewel
Apr 10th 2005, 5:37 pm
I feel a DMOZ listing helps as far as SERPS. Besides the link, there are some PR4 DMOZ clones/directories that show as backlinks on google. As far as generating traffic from the listing - I haven't seen much.

I have never had a site rejected- although once took over a month to get listed- and then you need to wait for google to update it's feed. I think it really depends on the editor of the category. From what I've heard, some never seem to do anything.

I just submitted a new site last week so I'll see. It's been about 8 months since I last submitted a site. I have never had any contact from DMOZ. One day you are just listed.

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 5:40 pm
mjewel, that is definitely a story you rarely hear. What category (ies) did you sub,it to? And who do you know there? :D

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 5:42 pm
Those editors must do nothing as all the submissions are sent in via the submission page, what do they do with them :confused:

No one knows because they do not even send you an email one way or another :confused:

That is why I say all the editors should be fired because they really don't do a damned thing anyway other than approve the sites they like, big deal :cool:

They could list every site submitted and if the sites are no good the users of the directory could vote the bad sites out of the index.

So what the hell do you need human editors for :confused:

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 5:52 pm
Hey, SOMEBODY has to man the Resourceless Zone forums and insult people, Anthony... I'm sure that's a tough job for some of them... :eek:

mjewel
Apr 10th 2005, 5:53 pm
The categories varied, but were fashion/accessory related and I spent weeks on the graphic design of each one (although I'm picky and slow).

I don't know anyone who is an editor and only submitted each one once. I've read a lot of horror stories so I know a problem exits- I just haven't personally experienced it.

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 6:04 pm
Well I'm glad they have one happy customer and I am sincerely happy for you. You obviously have had the rare fortune of dealing with one or more editors who actually care about the directory and who aren't just power crazy jerks.

Blogmaster
Apr 10th 2005, 6:56 pm
Paula, what has been the reason for you to abandon your editor position?

raptor
Apr 10th 2005, 7:27 pm
Has anyone here every experienced a bump in thier SE listing from a DMOZ listing?

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 7:32 pm
DMOZ is used as a database for many search engines to pull results from, a lot of "META ENGINES" that pull results from many different sources including spidering search engines use their database.

So you can get direct hits from inclusion in DMOZ from many places other than DMOZ and Google also uses their database for the Google directory.

Blogmaster
Apr 10th 2005, 8:32 pm
Has anyone here every experienced a bump in thier SE listing from a DMOZ listing?
it is more than worth it, having had a real estate listing in the past 2 years can be estimated as millions in value considering the sales generated by leads which without DMOZ's SERP boosts would have never come in. Why you think we talk about DMOZ so much?

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 8:47 pm
Why you think we talk about DMOZ so much?
I assumed it was simply because DMOZ is the pimple on the a** of the internet...

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 8:51 pm
Well if it is all that you may as well just bribe your way in TOOT, why are you not treating the editors to boat rides with young women out in San Diego :confused:

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 8:55 pm
why are you not treating the editors to boat rides with young women out in San Diego?
We're talking about DMOZ here, Anthony... what would DMOZ editors do with young women?

Blow-up dolls or collections of GIFs maybe...

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 8:58 pm
Well the thing I don't understand is why TOOT is fighting with them :confused:

If he is a decent SEO he would be buying his way in by the bribes that he says they take.

It seems that TOOT has missed the boat and is going about this backward while the competition smokes him.........

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 9:01 pm
I think he's overestimating the value of a DMOZ listing, even in real estate -- if I recall correctly, they have about 180 real estate sites listed in the index -- are all the rest going bankrupt or what? Are the top 10 or top 20 real estate sites even listed in DMOZ?

Blogmaster
Apr 10th 2005, 9:02 pm
If you search for almost any area combined with the word real estate in DMOZ, you will see some very small sites of real estate agents who don't even understand the value of their listing and how they can build upon it. The reason is that many DMOZ editors for real estate are themselves in that industry with their very own websites. They will give a few friends the listings and then fill up their categories with sites which are not a thread to them. Try getting your site in if you are a competitor. No can go. You will hear a lot of lies such as "a DMOZ listing is not really worth anything".
I have been in the real estate marketing industrie for a long time and my results are great.
There are a few factors I cannot control however.
1 is the Google filter which is established for the real estate industry specifically and involves a waititng list longer than the regular sandbox.
2 is corruption within DMOZ giving an unfair advantage to the few that got in early and prevent serious competitors from ever being listed. They are being ranked because DMOZ has their back and others have to work 10 times as hard to get where they are.
Also, the real estate filter can be broken, but you need a DMOZ listing in addition to a few other factors.
If you wonder why I am pi$$ed at DMOZ, this is why. Do I have reason? I believe I do.
The only thing I hate more than corruption is bystanders looking the other way and then lying about it. Kinda like Nazi Germany where Noone knew and some deny it ever happened.

I see a similar attitude in resource zone and it sickens me.
There is a monopoly that has been established and I believe there are violations of the law taking place.

Blogmaster
Apr 10th 2005, 9:05 pm
Well if it is all that you may as well just bribe your way in TOOT, why are you not treating the editors to boat rides with young women out in San Diego :confused:
too late for that :D

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 9:16 pm
So if I read you correctly, the people actually listed in DMOZ aren't doing that great? They're the small players keeping out the bigger players?

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 9:18 pm
All you have to do is go to the Google directory and see who is there Minstrel :eek:

TOOT it is never too late to up the ante and bribe someone that can be had :D

Blogmaster
Apr 10th 2005, 9:22 pm
So if I read you correctly, the people actually listed in DMOZ aren't doing that great? They're the small players keeping out the bigger players?
they are a small group of big players (editors and friends) and a load of small players who may not even know what DMOZ is. (in about 60% of the regional real estate categories)

minstrel
Apr 10th 2005, 9:22 pm
Maybe he's right, ST... I'd strongly suggest you give the blow-up sheep a try... that should work if anything will... :D

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 9:24 pm
My new directory will blow their asses away, just wait until it comes out man :eek:

Blogmaster
Apr 10th 2005, 9:25 pm
hehe ..

anyways, I was going to show you guys an example but of course their search function is down :rolleyes:

anthonycea
Apr 10th 2005, 9:28 pm
Funny thing is that my Directory will be the one everyone will use after it is introduced, no one will even want a listing in DMOZ then :o

PS: It is funny that any thread here that has the word DMOZ in it always brings in the same players :) :D :p

Blogmaster
Apr 10th 2005, 9:30 pm
PS: It is funny that any thread here that has the word DMOZ in it always brings in the same players :) :D :p
true but it is because noone wants to get involved because they have some listings they are afraid to lose.