is yahoo changed its alogrithm?

[netprophet]

is yahoo changed its alogrithm?

for past 2 months my site is not listed some keywords in yahoo but on those keywords my site is listed in google and msn. what can i do for good ranking in yahoo?

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[Pepsi Live]

Yahoo is very hard to rank. Yahoo is very complicated.

[darrens]

I wouldn't mind some step by step guides for yahoo seo ?
I used to rank great and now i have nothing?
I have tried everything to gain my ranking back but nothing seems to fix it?

This happened about 2 months ago

[bermuda]

Maybe you have made some changes to your on-page optimization. Or that you may have dropped some pages.

[GoWFB_SEO]

my site moved up recently, i did notice a change on Yahoo SERP.

[Ithilnet]

I check every hour the rankings for some keywords and every time I find different sites.
I think something has been changed

[Lonny.P]

Actually it's easier to rank higher in Yahoo than in google, the problem that if you mess up once they can ban your site for a year and then you have a real problem!

[Jack Squat]

i also noticed a change recently and posted it here.
BUT ....apparently it got moved to here (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=130395)

[Claudek]

Yahoo has changed something. In the past few days, one of my sites has been de-indexed by approximately 1000 pages. This was slightly MFA type so may have been penalised.

Another site which is all good, unique content, no "search engine optimised" coding has been completely indexed for the first time. I have made some yahoo searches that I've seen bring bad pages in the search results but now am getting pretty much all related and good content.

So yep, I'd say yes that they changed their algorithm.

[coolsitez]

IMO, yahoo seems to be the hardest to figure out. It's annoying.

[titoni]

I think yahoo has chaged its alogrithm

[netprophet]

Actually it's easier to rank higher in Yahoo than in google, the problem that if you mess up once they can ban your site for a year and then you have a real problem!

but this time yahoo create a problem for me. i really amazed to see the results in yahoo. my site is ranked pretty well in google in some key-phrases but in yahoo i can't found site even though my site is indexed properly in yahoo.

[legal-nurse-consultant]

It definitely changed last week. I noticed it on Thursday, and results have been changing everday since then. My site moved up to #1 from #5. The results below are different eveytime I check. One site moved from #25 to #3 for a while, then fell off the map again.

[PinoyIto]

I agree seem's that they are implementing new algo... all my sites rank well for the past 1 year and now most of them drop from rank #1 to rank 40 I guess.

[ferret77]

this sucks

[netprophet]

any tips for top listing in yahoo? according to new alogorithm of yahoo.

[racer22]

guessing about Yahoo rankings is more complicated than google

[netprophet]

guessing about Yahoo rankings is more complicated than google

yeah, you're right.

[Keone]

I have been getting strange hits from yahoo slurp to pages that never existed
and from that moment my indexed pages changed and I dropped from page one to page 3.

[Claudek]

Yahoo slurp sends various bogus page requests to see if auto content is generated. It helps it identify websites that create content "on the fly", ie spammy type pages. While your website appears not have been one of these (as you're on page 3), you have been caught by the change in the search algorithm.

[Pepsi Live]

To tell you the truth im seeing better results in Yahoo then Google.

[Web Gazelle]

It's kinda funny your all saying it is hard to rank in Yahoo. As of late I have been finding it far more easy to rank in Yahoo than even MSN (I find MSN fairly easy too). I have now ranked a site in yahoo for more than 50 seach terms over the past month. Yes, these terms are fairly competitive. I can't tell you my secret though, can't have any competitors get it. ;)

[Pepsi Live]

You are bad Web Gazelle. If you cant tell us the secret then don't post about how you are doing so great in Yahoo. Trust me we don't feel any better hearing this.

But congratulations dude. Good job for ranking on top in Yahoo.

[Web Gazelle]

I can't post a URL or any search terms because of competition. If I was to post the URL of the site and some of the search terms, competitors could be all over that and then I may not have the rankings I currently enjoy. PM me with your URL if you want a few tips. I will give you some insite when I have a few minutes later today or this weekend.

[mjewel]

Yahoo slurp sends various bogus page requests to see if auto content is generated. It helps it identify websites that create content "on the fly", ie spammy type pages. While your website appears not have been one of these (as you're on page 3), you have been caught by the change in the search algorithm.


I wonder if custom 404 pages with advertising and a menu would appear as auto-generated?

[ferret77]

Yahoo slurp sends various bogus page requests to see if auto content is generated. It helps it identify websites that create content "on the fly", ie spammy type pages. While your website appears not have been one of these (as you're on page 3), you have been caught by the change in the search algorithm.

What are you talking about?

How would it know that?

[netprophet]

Yahoo slurp sends various bogus page requests to see if auto content is generated. It helps it identify websites that create content "on the fly", ie spammy type pages. While your website appears not have been one of these (as you're on page 3), you have been caught by the change in the search algorithm.

how it is detected?

[digiseek]

How will the Yahoo slurp know if it is a custom error page or a page created on the fly

[Web Gazelle]

The new algo seems to like keywords in the URL. Other stuff too but for sure Keywords in the URL. Spammers are going to have a party.

[netprophet]

The new algo seems to like keywords in the URL. Other stuff too but for sure Keywords in the URL. Spammers are going to have a party.

i hope so.. but if u check my url it is according to keywords so this logics fail dear.

[Janet]

You can add me to the "WTH is going on with yahoo" group. I had great rankings (top 10 for most keywords). about a month or so ago, my site disappeared completely from the serps. No idea why. Very frustrating. However, google and msn still like me so not all is lost.

[ferret77]

at first i thought maybe my recips got decvalued but some site I just added a ton of recips to went up

[Janet]

Update on my yahoo problem if anyone is interested. I will try to make a long story short. I emailed yahoo regarding the fact that my site was no longer in their search. They replied with a form type email stating I violated one of their guidelines. After looking at the guidelines, I concluded that the only guideline I could have violated is 'excessive affiliate links for amount of content'. I had recently added a bunch of amazon affiliate text links on my site around the same time I was removed from yahoo search. I guess I added too many. Since the affiliate links weren't making me any money and barely any clicks (I don't think I have enough traffic yet to profit from them) I decided to remove them to see what would happen. At this point in time for my site, the traffic from yahoo will benefit me more than the affiliate links.

Afterwards, I completed the re-review form with yahoo explaining what happened and what I did.

A week after I sent the form, my site is now once again coming up in the search just as it was before. Top 10 for all keywords. I can happiliy say now I am ranking well in all se's. :)

Conclusion: Yahoo doesn't care for too many affiliate links.

Maybe this will help someone else.

[netprophet]

Update on my yahoo problem if anyone is interested. I will try to make a long story short. I emailed yahoo regarding the fact that my site was no longer in their search. They replied with a form type email stating I violated one of their guidelines. After looking at the guidelines, I concluded that the only guideline I could have violated is 'excessive affiliate links for amount of content'. I had recently added a bunch of amazon affiliate text links on my site around the same time I was removed from yahoo search. I guess I added too many. Since the affiliate links weren't making me any money and barely any clicks (I don't think I have enough traffic yet to profit from them) I decided to remove them to see what would happen. At this point in time for my site, the traffic from yahoo will benefit me more than the affiliate links.

Afterwards, I completed the re-review form with yahoo explaining what happened and what I did.

A week after I sent the form, my site is now once again coming up in the search just as it was before. Top 10 for all keywords. I can happiliy say now I am ranking well in all se's. :)

Conclusion: Yahoo doesn't care for too many affiliate links.

Maybe this will help someone else.

good conclusion janet. :)

[Web Gazelle]

i hope so.. but if u check my url it is according to keywords so this logics fail dear.

You can't rely on just keywords in your URL. Placement in several other places on the webpage will also affect rankings... Dear. ;)

[netprophet]

You can't rely on just keywords in your URL. Placement in several other places on the webpage will also affect rankings... Dear. ;)

i know dear........ ;)

[Redman99]

What's weird is almost immediately after starting an SEO campaign on a site at the beginning of August, it dropped out of both Yahoo and MSN search after being first page for its keywords before August. I have a site that underwent SEO starting in February and it's still very high for it's keywords - no droppage. Hmmm... something is going on. The one that dropped out has zero advertisments or affiliates.

[Web Gazelle]

What's weird is almost immediately after starting an SEO campaign on a site at the beginning of August, it dropped out of both Yahoo and MSN search after being first page for its keywords before August. I have a site that underwent SEO starting in February and it's still very high for it's keywords - no droppage. Hmmm... something is going on. The one that dropped out has zero advertisments or affiliates.

Maybe your SEO is really anti-seo. :eek:

[netprophet]

Maybe your SEO is really anti-seo. :eek:

what do u mean by anti-seo?:cool:

[Web Gazelle]

What does adding anti to the front of any word mean? Anti-terrorism, anti-depressant, anti-inflamatory, anti-social.. Do I need to continue? :cool:

[netprophet]

What does adding anti to the front of any word mean? Anti-terrorism, anti-depressant, anti-inflamatory, anti-social.. Do I need to continue? :cool:

Sometime a single word has different meaning........ I thought you've some different meaning of anti-seo :D

[Web Gazelle]

Anti-seo is when your optimizing your site with different things that might have worked in the past but now only get your site penalized. :cool:

[netprophet]

Anti-seo is when your optimizing your site with different things that might have worked in the past but now only get your site penalized. :cool:

your anti-seo definition is too small dear but precise. ;)

[Web Gazelle]

your anti-seo definition is too small dear but precise. ;)

I am a gazelle, not a dear. Two different animals. Can't you see the difference? :D

[SEO Jeff]

So what did Yahoo do? Last month I had great rankings but now I am no where to be seen on US search. If you try Canada, UK, etc. based search I am ranking great. How can I be ranking great in all other Yahoo searches cept the US search?

[Web Gazelle]

US Yahoo is using the new algo which is spammy domain name and spammy URL friendly.

[internetmarketing]

US Yahoo is using the new algo which is spammy domain name and spammy URL friendly.

can u give me any source where i can read in details.:)

[ROAR]

I got knocked out of top spots for some fairly competitive stuff the past few days. Like no-where to be found. Pages of mine that are garbage SEO wise are showing in the 20's (serps). The "good" pages were not there.
Its only 10-15% of my traffic--- but that means my income took a 10-15% hit. I dont need this sh*t on Saturday morning.

[Web Gazelle]

can u give me any source where i can read in details.:)

Their search blog mentions an update on the 25th of August.

[netprophet]

I am a gazelle, not a dear. Two different animals. Can't you see the difference? :D

sorry i misunderstood u as a human-being. :D

[Web Gazelle]

I was born human but I discovered that I was really a Gazelle trapped in a human body. It is amazing what modern medicine can do. :eek:

[NineFingers]

US Yahoo is using the new algo which is spammy domain name and spammy URL friendly.

Couldn't agree more! Now you need your page titles (and directories) to match the keyphrase you are targeting. Lots of spam.

[Arizona Web Design]

I'm pretty sure Yahoo! was assigning value to dirty links (such as affiliate links), and started to diminish their value. I saw some droppage on a few major terms and I'm currently strategising on how to recoup a few spots here and there.

Maybe Web Gazelle could swoop down and help a brother out? PM me if ya hear me! :)

[netprophet]

US Yahoo is using the new algo which is spammy domain name and spammy URL friendly.

Ya I noticed this. :)

[Web Gazelle]

I accepted being pushed to page 2 by those spammy domain names and in exchange I have targeted some good search terms that are not quite as competitive. The result has been that the webpage is now on page one for about a dozen lesser terms and an overall increase in traffic from Yahoo. I am now using this strategy throughout the site.

[netprophet]

I accepted being pushed to page 2 by those spammy domain names and in exchange I have targeted some good search terms that are not quite as competitive. The result has been that the webpage is now on page one for about a dozen lesser terms and an overall increase in traffic from Yahoo. I am now using this strategy throughout the site.

I think this is the secret of your good ranking in yahoo which you mention earlier in this thread. :)

[Web Gazelle]

I think this is the secret of your good ranking in yahoo which you mention earlier in this thread. :)

Not entirely. I never mentioned what I am doing to rank for all those terms. ;)

[netprophet]

Not entirely. I never mentioned what I am doing to rank for all those terms. ;)

So what r the method u applies for top ranking in yahoo? :cool:

[chrisindcbc]

I have gone from having my site listed on the top 10 of Yahoo with various popular search strings to not even being in the top 100. My site has gone from having over backlinks with Yahoo to 0. It seems that this all happened practically overnight about a week ago. I am losing a ton of traffic because of this.

[netprophet]

I have gone from having my site listed on the top 10 of Yahoo with various popular search strings to not even being in the top 100. My site has gone from having over backlinks with Yahoo to 0. It seems that this all happened practically overnight about a week ago. I am losing a ton of traffic because of this.

can u give me your site details with key-phrases? :)

[Web Gazelle]

So what r the method u applies for top ranking in yahoo? :cool:

That is a secret I keep under my blackhat ;)

I have gone from having my site listed on the top 10 of Yahoo with various popular search strings to not even being in the top 100. My site has gone from having over backlinks with Yahoo to 0. It seems that this all happened practically overnight about a week ago. I am losing a ton of traffic because of this.

Try site explorer to see how your pages are being crawled.

[netprophet]

That is a secret I keep under my blackhat ;)



Try site explorer to see how your pages are being crawled.

i don't think it's black hat seo?

[Web Gazelle]

i don't think it's black hat seo?

I don't have a blackhat. Do you see one in my avatar? :D

[legal-nurse-consultant]

Is the shuffling done? Last time this happend I dropped from #5 to #14, then a day or two later I was at #1.

Dropped down to #2 on one and from #1 to #17 on a newer site I just took over.

[netprophet]

I don't have a blackhat. Do you see one in my avatar? :D

instead of black hat u've black head......;)

[Web Gazelle]

instead of black hat u've black head......;)
Black horns yes, black hat or black head, no. :cool:

[netprophet]

Black horns yes, black hat or black head, no. :cool:
yes u r right.....
that's why u apply all un-ethical seo tips........ :D

[Web Gazelle]

I don't know what your talking about calling them un-ethical. :confused: