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gina.alessia
Jan 3rd 2009, 5:13 pm
Hi there, i have a problem with G indexing my website. The site is like 1 month old. I`ve submitted almost all of my articles to Digg, Stumble, and other SB sites, made some directory submissions, rss submissions, sitemap submission but no results from google. Yahoo inexed my website.

I added the site to webmastertools and submitted my sitemap. At statistics menu when i look for Crawl Stats it shows me the Number of pages crawled per day, Number of kilobytes downloaded per day and Time spent downloading a page (in milliseconds). Also it shows me what google bot sees on my webpage and the status of my sitemap is OK but the site doesn`t get indexed. I know it could take 1-2 months for a site to get indexed but never happened to me before to take this long. I have a bunch of site and also i took care of some friend's sites but never took more than a week to index a site, sometimes in just 2 days.

Anyone have an opinion of what the problem might be ?

P.S. there is no adult, illegal or any kind of this content and also there is no problem from my robots.txt file

Please help. Thanks.

TheLasTSamuRai
Jan 3rd 2009, 6:01 pm
maybe your domain banned from SE
to know that follow this steps
First type the domain into google. if it shows up there even just as a url it is probably not a ban. if it is not there then do "www.domain.com" with quotes. if you see links to it and it did not show up at all before it has a ban.

malcolm1
Jan 3rd 2009, 6:27 pm
Hello...

This does sound very rare indeed... being you have been doing everything correct...

Is the domain new or was it dropped? maybe last owner got the site domain banned?

I would try reclusion request with you telling them you are domains new owner

thx
malcolm

gina.alessia
Jan 3rd 2009, 7:14 pm
thanks for your answers, i registered the domain as new but i made a history research and found out that the domain was registered before and dropped. I`ve discovered that it was a music's band site before and also checked on archive.org but seemed nothing ilegal too before i registered the domain and didn't find any motives for it to be banned. I think i will wait a few days and then i will contact Google.

@TheLasTSamuRai: i tryed that, with and without quotes the search brings up the articles i`ve submitted to SB sites or the directory submissions.

domainbiz
Jan 3rd 2009, 11:49 pm
Hi there, If the domain has history I would double check using banned site checker tools. Your domain should have been indexed within a period of a month. Let us know how it goes

Seller5250
Jan 4th 2009, 1:26 am
@domainbiz : what tools do you recommend if any?

Thanks in advance

gina.alessia
Jan 4th 2009, 5:55 am
i have found some tools but i don`t think they`re trustble. They check to see if any page of site is indexed or if the page has any PR. I don't think a real tool for this exists.

anyone knows how can i contact google fot this matter ?

homey
Jan 4th 2009, 11:44 am
Create an account (if you don't already have one) at google.com/webmaster . Once you have the site verified and set up in webmaster tools, then on your dashboard page on the right side will be the link to request reconsideration. I have a domain in the same boat.

Good luck.

Big0ne
Jan 4th 2009, 12:13 pm
Try to use sitemap, and make sure you exclude duplicate content using /robots.txt

PopaWoody
Jan 4th 2009, 12:15 pm
link to it from craigs list, write about 200 words describing the site. even though they (cl) use the no follow tag, I have had domains indexed within 24 hours of being "posted" on craigs list.

TheRazor5
Jan 4th 2009, 12:46 pm
Did you submited all your articles to the SB sites in a unique burst? Did you do it all in the same day?

Because Google will get you sandboxed if you do that. If that's the case, the big G will put you on within a week or two.

If it's not, keep posting and pinging, it will sooner or later get indexed.

-- -- --
Also check your site for broken links, Google doesn't like that.

dcristo
Jan 4th 2009, 12:49 pm
Are you sure there is no problems with the robots.txt file? 1 month does sound like a very long time to get indexed.

TheRazor5
Jan 4th 2009, 1:09 pm
Dude listen to yourself...

She said she submitted to a lot of Social Bookmarking sites, that means backlinks, that means Google already crawled the website.

What the Disallow code on the robots text file will do is to tell the bots not to crawl that part of te website, which it is already crawled since it's indexed on yahoo and has already backlinks built.

So the only problem could be the noindex tag on the pages of the ste itself, which I doubt she has.

jasmor81
Jan 4th 2009, 1:15 pm
Im remaining patient but I have a page that is not being crawled in google too? But im giving in a couple weeks

TheRazor5
Jan 4th 2009, 1:19 pm
Those are diferent things Jas.

If you are not getting crawled you need to build a couple of backlinks to it first.
But the thing with Gina os diferent, she is getting crawled but it's not getting indexed just on Google.

gina.alessia
Jan 4th 2009, 3:53 pm
Hi, thanks to all for your answers.

I get my site crawled as it shows up in the Crawl Stats in my webmastertools account. The problem is not from robots.txt. I`ve sent an email to help@google.com and hope to receive some answer.

@homey: Thanks for your tip, i didn't know about that link in webmasterstools. I'll wait the answer to my email i`ve sent and if it says it is banned i would request reconsideration.

IEmailer.com
Jan 4th 2009, 4:46 pm
Gina, that's really weird indeed, as you've done every thing correctly ;)
Do you mind sharing your website URL so we might be able to help you more?

gina.alessia
Jan 4th 2009, 5:00 pm
it's in my signature, the conspiracy one :)

IEmailer.com
Jan 4th 2009, 5:39 pm
Well the domain was expired and registered so many times since 2005/6 !!!?

As an advice request a reconsideration from your account in google web masters tools and just wait, as you don't really know how it was used or if it's even banned by them.. doorway pages or even cloaking ;)

gina.alessia
Jan 4th 2009, 6:03 pm
i am waiting for a response and then i`ll request reconsideration

IEmailer.com
Jan 4th 2009, 6:07 pm
i am waiting for a response and then i`ll request reconsideration

It's going to take a while till they review your website anyway.. so why waste your time waiting while there is still one thing you need to do ?

mikelorentz
Jan 5th 2009, 1:02 am
maybe your domain banned from SE


i too think that ur domain is a banned domain.

gina.alessia
Jan 5th 2009, 4:14 am
Please allow several weeks for the reconsideration request.

I just have to wait now. Hmm...:(

TheRazor5
Jan 5th 2009, 4:19 am
It's exactly what I was talking about.

Your domain has 21 days and you have oer 300 backlink built already. You're sandboxed.

Like I said allow 2 more weeks to get indexed.

How to build Backlinks:

- Smoothly overtime keep on getting around 15 backlinks per month, that's enough, specially for a new domain.
- Once you've established some credibility with google than you can start on building more and more backlinks faster without penalization.

Alan50
Jan 5th 2009, 4:24 am
Let us knowhow it goes.

Simrn
Jan 5th 2009, 4:55 am
I've heard that bookmarking helps in faster indexing ... but how to bookmark in technoarti .. I've created an account there; but :-( how to proceed please someone who has some knowledge guide me in detail.
thanks

gina.alessia
Jan 5th 2009, 8:30 am
It's exactly what I was talking about.

Your domain has 21 days and you have oer 300 backlink built already. You're sandboxed.

Like I said allow 2 more weeks to get indexed.

How to build Backlinks:

- Smoothly overtime keep on getting around 15 backlinks per month, that's enough, specially for a new domain.
- Once you've established some credibility with google than you can start on building more and more backlinks faster without penalization.


Hope to be that than banned. But 300 backlinks ? I found about 30 backlinks. There are some old backlinks remained from the domain before it was dropped i think.

TheRazor5
Jan 5th 2009, 10:40 am
Simrn:

You need to submit your blog to tecnorati than you need to confirm you are the owner of it by placing a code on the page, than all your posts will be bookmarked there, both the new ones and the older ones.

Hope that helped.

Simrn
Jan 5th 2009, 11:02 am
I've websites, I want to bookmark my website pages on technoarti. I'm not talking about blogs. As we bookmark website pages on Digg; can't we do the same on technoarti? please explain!

TheRazor5
Jan 5th 2009, 11:37 am
I believe you can do it also for websites. It's exactly the same process that I explained you.

anthonygj
Jan 5th 2009, 11:49 am
IF your name is banned on google just get a diff name and try again. that's crazy though because i got my site indexed in less than 24hours every time. I started with forum advertising to keep things light then hit up blog commenting. then hit up digg of course.

TheRazor5
Jan 5th 2009, 12:16 pm
Yeah I usually index a whole website within 8 hours but it needs to be done correctly, and in this case it was way over done.

gina.alessia
Jan 5th 2009, 2:59 pm
i got some other sites indexed fast too, this is the first time that this happened that's why after the first week i got worrie. know i`m waiting for a response for my reconsideration request.

Also noticed that 2 days ago when i searched google for theoriesofconspiracy.com, brought 156 results, now i`m only getting 96. Why could be that ? Anyone ?

TheRazor5
Jan 5th 2009, 3:04 pm
Places like Digg get your site listed on the categories like News and than the Page, but after a while they'll go away and you'll just stay with the story location link.

That might be it.

gina.alessia
Jan 5th 2009, 4:31 pm
i get it, thanks

@anthonygj: i don't want another name, i like this one :) and hope to be reconsidered

Simrn
Jan 5th 2009, 8:09 pm
Yeah I usually index a whole website within 8 hours but it needs to be done correctly, and in this case it was way over done.

I'm confused here: submit your blog to tecnorati - I have an account but where to click to submit my site? later I'll add their code on my site ect ... [i can have an idea] but which button to click for submission of website - please guide
The second thing is you told you get faster indexing by RIGHT bookmarking methods. OK I want you to share a few more sites you do [besides Digg] that are highly effective for a person like me who doesn't find enough time to bookmark into 50 or more sites :(

gina.alessia
Jan 6th 2009, 5:45 am
I'm confused here: submit your blog to tecnorati - I have an account but where to click to submit my site? later I'll add their code on my site ect ... i can have an idea but which button to click for submission of website - please guide


Log in into your account and click on your username near [sign out] link. You will see some tabs. The fourth is Claimed Blogs and click Claim a new Blog.

Simrn
Jan 6th 2009, 5:51 am
oh thankyou so much for your help, ohk I'm going to give it a try now!
let's cee how it goes ... :)

Simrn
Jan 6th 2009, 5:56 am
i got some other sites indexed fast too, this is the first time that this happened that's why after the first week i got worrie. know i`m waiting for a response for my reconsideration request.

Also noticed that 2 days ago when i searched google for theoriesofconspiracy.com, brought 156 results, now i`m only getting 96. Why could be that ? Anyone ?

I had a similar problem in past. I was on no.1 for 4 KW suddenly my site [when typed site name in google] brought other webpages in results or a few of my inner pages. but my home page was seen nowhere among 100+ results. but it got all OK within a week.
one suggestion is just to stop ANYTHING you're doing for links to ur site. stop any other changes you're doing
just stay n watch
truly dont be confused ... it happens but CHANGES can cause problems :)
Good luck

TheRazor5
Jan 6th 2009, 12:06 pm
If you start by using the main ones like Digg.com Reddit and Propeller, if you want go also for delicious... and make sure to have a RSS feed installed and use a service like ping-o-matic to ping your blog or website...

A very important reminder is:

Do NOT bookmark or get backlinks for all your posts or pages on a newly created website.
Allow at least 3 - 6 months of recurring postings to built credibility to your website or blog, than you can go more aggressive on bookmarking and building links.

kingofsanda
Jan 6th 2009, 12:16 pm
You should wait a few weeks to see if things change if nothing changes you should
consider getting a new domain name.

Simrn
Jan 6th 2009, 8:28 pm
If you start by using the main ones like Digg.com Reddit and Propeller, if you want go also for delicious... and make sure to have a RSS feed installed and use a service like ping-o-matic to ping your blog or website...

A very important reminder is:

Do NOT bookmark or get backlinks for all your posts or pages on a newly created website.
Allow at least 3 - 6 months of recurring postings to built credibility to your website or blog, than you can go more aggressive on bookmarking and building links.

ohk ... currently I'm using digg and reddit .. digg works wonders for faster indexing. well I don't know anything about RSS feed installed and use a service like ping-o-matic to ping your blog or website
actually .. one imp. thing is when we google for RSS or bookmarking methods/guidelines - we usually find zero valid results. it takes us to random blog posts or affiliate pages. I always wonder how can i get some proven valid advice about these things.
please explain a bit the "RSS feed installed" and "ping-o-matic to ping your website". My website is two years old, i know all about getting steady BL. Just guide me some more about bookmarking - RSS + Ping
thanks

manamo
Jan 7th 2009, 12:20 am
I had the same problem in 1 of my sites... it got indexed after 3 months.
You should wait some time.

alokverma
Jan 7th 2009, 1:43 am
hi, just submitting your site to social book marking sites not enough to get your site crawled if you have duplicate content then it's very hard for google robot to crawl your pages. Be very white handed while designing a site and also when you upload the data because mirror site are also not crawled by google..

Mega B
Jan 7th 2009, 1:49 am
I would think adding your site to Digg could work as this would speed the process up quicker but if it is not showing after a day or so i would also advice changing your domain as the Big G has the biggest slice of the traffic on the internet the domain option would be the wisest move.

gina.alessia
Jan 7th 2009, 5:03 am
changing the domain name is not in my future plans :) i`ll wait and do anything possible to get working with this domain name

@Simrn: if you use wordpress you`ll se an option In the Settings menu Update Services where is a list o ping servers. You should search on google for a better list and update it. It will ping servers every time you publish a new post.

jesi
Jan 7th 2009, 5:30 am
It never been happend commonly, but there is big chance that your domain name has been banned by Search Engine bcoz of any reason, by the way i m comming back and willing to check your site and then again gonna comment you :)... keep waiting for some time and never lose your courage for more work for site :)

eposdirect
Jan 7th 2009, 6:14 am
check your robots.txt file may be add your index url just remove this url and other thing check your site not go in google sandbox

TheRazor5
Jan 7th 2009, 6:29 am
I'm sorry everybody but, Just freaking read the previous posts before you post the exact same thing that has been said dozens of times before, ok?

I think Digital Point would benefit from it.

Mega B
Jan 7th 2009, 9:10 am
I was getting worried about a domain i bought 5-6 days back that it was not included in google as the domain was nearly a year old but i added it to Digg and few other high profile sites and within the last hour it has been included i am well pleased

sparkah
Jan 7th 2009, 1:01 pm
I was getting worried about a domain i bought 5-6 days back that it was not included in google as the domain was nearly a year old but i added it to Digg and few other high profile sites and within the last hour it has been included i am well pleased

Mega is right on.
Google TRYS to ignore new domains. The only way you get out of the "sandbox" is to have a high PR site link to you. OR tons of smaller blogs. HOW to do that... is another issue

siflur
Jan 7th 2009, 1:18 pm
i got some other sites indexed fast too, this is the first time that this happened that's why after the first week i got worrie. know i`m waiting for a response for my reconsideration request.

Also noticed that 2 days ago when i searched google for theoriesofconspiracy.com, brought 156 results, now i`m only getting 96. Why could be that ? Anyone ?

Hey,
You shouldn't worry so much about your links on social bookmarking sites and the whole sandbox thing. I do respect your opinion, Razor, but don't be such a pussy.
I'll do a little something that usually get my sites indexed within 2 - 16 hours. So I'll check up on your site tomorrow...
Best wishes
- Siflur

dcristo
Jan 7th 2009, 2:16 pm
It's exactly what I was talking about.

Your domain has 21 days and you have oer 300 backlink built already. You're sandboxed.

Mate you are confused. The sandbox and indexing are 2 different things.

TheRazor5
Jan 7th 2009, 2:42 pm
Mate... I know what I'm talking about.

Yes, not being indexed doesn't necessarily mean you are sandboxed, but lately it's what google has been doing.

Simrn
Jan 7th 2009, 8:09 pm
I think late indexing = content not being noticed by google as authority[not unique or highly competitive niche]
boring title and wrong keyword density, no backlinks to newer pages, no enough internal links to the new page, ect. like there could be lot of factors.
so the best strategy is leave it over google, it ll ultimately get indexed within a month or so. Do collect some good backlinks for the new page. put a lnik towards it from your home page or any other highly trafficked pages.

siflur
Jan 8th 2009, 6:58 am
I think late indexing = content not being noticed by google as authority[not unique or highly competitive niche]
boring title and wrong keyword density, no backlinks to newer pages, no enough internal links to the new page, ect. like there could be lot of factors.
so the best strategy is leave it over google, it ll ultimately get indexed within a month or so. Do collect some good backlinks for the new page. put a lnik towards it from your home page or any other highly trafficked pages.

Yeah, get the googlebot to laugh and you will get indexed.

Simrn
Jan 8th 2009, 8:04 am
Yeah, get the googlebot to laugh and you will get indexed.

Sorry, what D' you mean by get the googlebot to laugh :)

siflur
Jan 8th 2009, 9:17 am
Sorry, what D' you mean by get the googlebot to laugh :)

You said boring titles could cause a late indexing.
And I replied with ironi to tell you that it isn't true.

Simrn
Jan 8th 2009, 10:22 am
You said boring titles could cause a late indexing.
And I replied with ironi to tell you that it isn't true.

oh I cee v well said mate ... mmm .. probably I've used the wrong word. by boring titles, I didnt mean unattractive for users but i mean unattractive for search engines [having NO or inappropriate KW or too long or too short page titles matters ...
thanks

gina.alessia
Jan 8th 2009, 1:35 pm
i think i`ve done my homework regarding seo and stuff like bad titles or bad keywords i don't think to be the motive of my indexing problem :). i have a webiste where the only content is 2 pictures and 2 input boxes and it got indexed in a couple of hours after i`ve submitted to stumble.

kÖe
Jan 8th 2009, 1:53 pm
My website took a long time to be indexed by Google.
I tried trading links to an already indexed website.
Suddenly, it was there. Right on Google pages.
You should be patient.

TheRazor5
Jan 8th 2009, 3:26 pm
Yeah now what she was left to do is wait for a few days... but you know, these things happen for a reason... they are mathematically calculated by their set of algorithms, google doesn't filter by hand the sites they don't like so much you know.

Simrn
Jan 8th 2009, 8:46 pm
ohk do one thing: don't JUST WAIT
you can pick authority links [relevant ones]
multiply the number of pages
i've observed one thing, if a site with love messages has a sinlge page, it's on no.3. but if a site on love messages makes 10 internal pages [linked from each page of it's website; good structure] comes on no.2 within days. So try multiplying pages, optimize them for different KW

TheRazor5
Jan 9th 2009, 2:05 am
Let me clarify:

"Yeah now what she was left to do is wait for a few days" = Within a week or so you'll get indexed on google.

Obviously that doesn't mean you have to wait until you are indexed to keep building content.

Now links I don't recommend to be built until you are indexed on google for 2 - 3 days. (I recommend this on this specific case)

gina.alessia
Jan 9th 2009, 11:25 am
still waiting for google. in the meantime i started to get organic traffic from yahoo :)

Simrn
Jan 9th 2009, 8:00 pm
yeah, I actually agree with Therazor5, by getting links i just meant if you find some VERY GOOD link like DP, you can do it ... but the best thing is to go for on-page content optimization. Another thing I want to ask: I once or twice created new threads on DP. But now I can't see option for creating thread. Would anyone of you guys send me a screenshot of where this button lies? in User Cp or Here on thread page[when I'm logged in]...sorry for this stupid question, but any help :(

TheRazor5
Jan 10th 2009, 3:34 am
The button is just under "Threads in Forum" which is bolted.

It's located just above the listings of the threads.

jasoncreja
Jan 10th 2009, 11:23 am
hi..I just checked your site and found that your site is indexed by google and I dont think now you need worried about anything an you can continue your promotion to get rank higher on top pages .

gina.alessia
Jan 10th 2009, 4:19 pm
my website is not indexed. i do not know how you found out that it is. i've just checked site:theoriesofconspiracy.com = no results

Simrn
Jan 10th 2009, 9:35 pm
site:theoriesofconspiracy.com is not indexed ... please explain jasoncreja, how you can see indexed?

usurfusave
Jan 10th 2009, 9:42 pm
Gina, you can get any site indexed in hours and sometime days if you use wordpress.

TheRazor5
Jan 11th 2009, 5:30 am
Oh this is Great. Everybody comes into a thread like this read the headline and than leave a reply.

This is not the way to go if you want to contribute with good facts to this forum... Please take sometime to read trough the other replies and than you make your reply... if you have anything of value to say.

Gina, you can get any site indexed in hours and sometime days if you use wordpress.

I don't get it, did you post this just to get one more post and therefore one more backlink for you sig links?

Because if you look at her website:
<meta name="generator" content="WordPress 2.7" />
She IS USING Wordpress.

Simrn
Jan 11th 2009, 11:54 pm
I read this post yesterday, and was also wondering how wordpress could help in faster indexing :)

TheRazor5
Jan 12th 2009, 4:03 am
It's just because of the optimized structure. But here's something you probably don't know, and you should, wordpress has huge problems with duplicated content. Is that gonna keep you out of the google index? Absolutely NOT.

gina.alessia
Apr 1st 2009, 2:18 am
I finally got my website indexed. If your site respects their TOS, just make a reconsideration request. It will finally get indexed but you`ll have to wait several months not several weeks as they say.

fransesc
Apr 1st 2009, 6:32 am
If you start by using the main ones like Digg.com Reddit and Propeller, if you want go also for delicious... and make sure to have a RSS feed installed and use a service like ping-o-matic to ping your blog or website...

A very important reminder is:

Do NOT bookmark or get backlinks for all your posts or pages on a newly created website.
Allow at least 3 - 6 months of recurring postings to built credibility to your website or blog, than you can go more aggressive on bookmarking and building links.
I have created a website a month ago, and I have bookmarked and got backlinks for all of my post. All of my pages have been indexed,but its won't appear when I search for my subdomain on Google,only main domail appears in search list. In this case was my site sandboxed?

TheRazor5
Apr 1st 2009, 8:42 am
Like I told you 2 - 4 weeks and you site would get back again.