Crazy Bush on TV right now, press conference!

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 7:35 am

You obviously were not paying too close attention, either now, or in past heated discussions that no president can set oil prices.

Ruined the world economy? Where the heck does that come from? I guess 5.4% unemployment rate is only something to be heralded when a democrat is in office.

Ever heard of OPEC?

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 7:43 am

Yes CR, I just seen it on the Press conference, that is the most blatant idiotic nomination and shows the arrogance of the dumb ass Republican pigs that have raped the world economy and have become the embarrassment of the American people, worse than in the days of Nixon.

Now they want to nominate Condi Rice for President to get the Black and women vote that they could never get.

What a bunch of losers Republicans are = Tom Delay :p :o

debunked

Mar 16th 2005, 7:45 am

OPEC are the good guys to Anthony......

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 7:46 am

Yep, just like the real oil thieves, the United Nations. If it's bad for America, it's good for Anthony.

justtara

Mar 16th 2005, 7:47 am

I really hate when he interupts my TV viewing. Doesn't he get that he needs to find a different time than 10:00 am EST.

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 7:48 am

G-Tech and Debunked, OPEC is a creation of Henry Kissinger and his Arab clients that he and Nixon are responsible for, the both of you could not understand the truth because you both live in a Republican smoke screen ;) :p :)

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 7:59 am

You mean the false truth you consistently perpetuate that Bush has the ability to set oil prices?

OPEC is a cartel that sets oil prices.

But since you think Bush can set oil prices, tell us what leads you to believe such?

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 8:12 am

Go ahead and justify the destruction of America G-tech, you are good a trying to do thus.

Halliburton was in the news yesterday for defrauding the government, did you happen to see that (or are you still protecting Cheney and his crimes). :confused:

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 8:24 am

It appears you have been corrected on OPEC elsewhere ;) I was doing some research to counter the rediculous claim that kissinger and nixon created OPEC and low and behold I come across another forum where you were trying to preach your own personal version of the truth:

http://www.webmastershelp.com/showthread.php?t=153&page=2

Small world.

I cannot justify something that is not happening. Only in your own small world, does the destruction of America exist. I'd think that would make you pretty happy, actually.

Truth be told, jobs continue to grow, unemployment is currently equal to the best Clinton EVER managed, but it was actually lower than Clinton's best. But Clinton gutted our military in doing so. I'm sure you were pleased with that though :rolleyes:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050225/D88FIJC00.html

Of course, that article is good news, so it's probably bad news for you?

For someone so outraged over oil, I'm always amazed at how you make up stories about Bush that are completely false, but completely ignore the biggest OIL scandal the world has ever known. Nah, that doesn't surprise me at all.

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 8:31 am

Here's some more doom and gloom for you Anthony:

http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=bondsNews&storyID=7868333

WASHINGTON, March 10 (Reuters) - Rising real estate prices and a resurgent U.S. stock market pushed the net wealth of American households to a record $48.53 trillion in the fourth quarter of 2004, the Federal Reserve said on Thursday.

In its quarterly "Flow of Funds" report, the central bank said household balance sheet values rose nearly $2 trillion above $46.59 trillion in the third quarter. U.S. household net worth pierced a new record in each of 2004's four quarters.

Higher values for real estate, equities and mutual funds led the fourth quarter net worth jump, the Fed said. Pension fund reserves and Treasury securities also posted big gains.

Residential real estate prices, boosted by historically low mortgage loan costs, continued to rise in the fourth quarter to $17.165 trillion and contributed to the gain in wealth.

Household balance sheets also benefited from buoyant stock markets in the period. The S&P 500 index gained nearly 8.7 percent, the Dow Jones Industrial index rose 7.7 percent and the Nasdaq was up 14.7 percent in the fourth quarter, Reuters data showed.

I don't normally quote from "Al Reuters" as they are not normally "American friendly." That they even report something positive was worth the bookmark when I came across it.

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 8:40 am

G-tech, please do not try to sway the membership with more propaganda :)

Why do I have to continue to educate you :confused:

Do some research before you make false statements about OPEC, you just do not understand that international bankers and oil men are behind this "oil scam" engineered by Kissinger and Nixon, now in the hands of Cheney and Bush, with Kissinger being the guiding light behind this ongoing rip-off of the people of the world.

http://vivisimo.com/search?v%3Asources=Web&query=nixon+kissinger+opec&x=48&y=13

Good luck educating yourself, because you have a very long row of corn to hoe.

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 8:48 am

Sway? Nah, that's what you attempt with all this nonsense. For example, I offered you the opportunity to show where Bush can set oil prices many times, including this post, but you don't. Why? Because you can't.

I just enjoy correcting you! Every time you dodge an opportunity, I know that you know better, but you just can't back it up. When you post a link to a pre-defined search, rather than a factual source, it tells me you don't do your research, as your positions would be better backed with direct articles/quotes as I've done.

Sorry bud, the doom and gloom is a figment of your imagination.

OPEC was founded in 1960. Long before Nixon and Kissinger.

Speaking of ripping off the world, what did you think about that oil for food scandal and all those countries saddam bought off with oil vouchers? I bet that really upset you!

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 8:52 am

You can read more about the failure of Nixon and Kissinger here.

http://academic.umf.maine.edu/~erb/classes/detente.htm

You can also see the country going in the same direction under Bush and Cheney today folks.

Guess what, the original "oil crisis" happened under the Nixon & Kissinger watch G-tech :)

Sandwalker

Mar 16th 2005, 8:55 am

sorry to butt in...

But Anthony, I think you're being too hard on the President. Afterall, he's in the pocket of the oil companies, he's only doing this presidency thing part time.

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 8:58 am

We welcome all opinions, even G-tech's :) :p :p

Welcome to the forum man :)

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 8:59 am

I don't need to read about it. The bottom line is, you declared that OPEC was nixon/kissinger's creation and that is easily disqualified. Kinda makes you look goofy, actually.

Speaking of ripping off the world, what did you think about that oil for food scandal and all those countries saddam bought off with oil vouchers? I bet that really upset you!

chachi

Mar 16th 2005, 8:59 am

Just out of curiosity, what was the point of the real estate article?

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:03 am

sorry to butt in...

But Anthony, I think you're being too hard on the President. Afterall, he's in the pocket of the oil companies, he's only doing this presidency thing part time.

This is excellent, I've tried and tried to get Anthony to show what oil companies and what evidence is available to support such a wild "theory."

I take it you know and will share? I bet it will clear everything right up!

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 9:03 am

No it makes you look Goofy, OPEC was not a factor until Kissinger and Nixon gave them a chance to be a factor by manipulation of the oil markets.

Can you explain why Kissinger & Associates to this day represents the Saudi Royal Family in Washington and why Kissinger had to resign as the Chairman of the 9/11 commission because of conflict of interest?

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:03 am

Just out of curiosity, what was the point of the real estate article?

In response to Anthony's doom and gloom about the destruction of America.

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:06 am

Can you explain why Kissinger & Associates to this day represents the Saud's in Washington and why Kissinger had to resign as the Chairman of the 9/11 commission because of conflict of interest?

Nope, but I can clearly show that kissinger/nixon did not create OPEC as you suggested. I personally don't care about kissinger or nixon, but when you state that they created opec, that does make ya look goofy.

Speaking of ripping off the world, what did you think about that oil for food scandal and all those countries saddam bought off with oil vouchers? I bet that really upset you!

debunked

Mar 16th 2005, 9:07 am

Here we go again:

anthonycea says: blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blha. Bush blah blah blah blaaaah!! Blah oil blah blah blah!

Funny thing is Anthony will also say that the MCI worldcom, Enron, etc... are caused by Bush, but UNDER WHOSE WATCH DID THE CROOKS GET CAUGHT? AND UNDER WHOSE WATCH DID THEY FLOURISH??? But of course I don't expect an answer, but I do expect propaganda and opinion, (just no facts as usual.)

OK A/C - your turn now - you can say how you THINK it is........

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 9:08 am

So what G-tech, the real estate market is subject to speculation because of record low interest rates and the decline in the stock market since the dot-com bust.

It is a bubble that is going to burst again, just ask folks in California how that works G-tech.

This in no refection of the real economy or the debt levels of Americans nor banks that would collapse if China did not continue to purchase US treasury bonds.

The rise in real estate prices is also a refection of the weak dollar, as the dollars becomes weaker we all have to pay more dollars for everything including oil, but no one ever said that you knew anything about economics G-tech.

PS: Debunked are you done babysitting for now :confused:

Remember your discussing issues with grown up folks here, not your kids at the dinner table. :p

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:12 am

I see the same thing Debunked. A double standard. He wants so desperately for Bush to be involved in oil, but Bush was not very successful in that industry. I keep hoping he'll come up with some proof.

What's really funny is, there is so much evidence against the UN and our own allies for being bought off with oil, yet there is nare a shred of outrage over the real oil thieves.

If ever there was a golden opportunity to be outraged over oil, it's the UN oil for food scandal and the 270 individuals and world leaders (countries) that were bought off with oil vouchers. But Anthony seems to approve that kind of oil theft.

debunked

Mar 16th 2005, 9:14 am

but no one ever said that you knew anything about economics G-tech.

And no one ever said you knew anything about reality.

debunked

Mar 16th 2005, 9:15 am

PS: Debunked are you done babysitting for now :confused:

:p

I wish I was but they said it was my turn to watch you!

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:17 am

So what G-tech, the real estate market is subject to speculation because of record low interest rates and the decline in the stock market since the dot-com bust.

If it's good for America, it's bad for Anthony.

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 9:18 am

Debunked why do you join in G-tech's propaganda effort and try your own brand of Debunked propaganda to support your failed ideas.

Look at this search if you want to learn about Enron and the oil business, it shows that Ken Lay (one of the Bush families closest friends) was the leader of the Enron energy company than nearly bankrupted the economy of the State of California and defrauded Billions from workers and shareholders, ruining the retirements of millions of people.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Bush+friend+Ken+Lay&btnG=Google+Search

You guys should know that just about every statement you both make are complete frauds and educate yourselves before trying to bend the minds of forum members, these guys are not idiots to fall for your un-ending propaganda for the Republicans. :cool:

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:19 am

oops, I almost forgot:

Speaking of ripping off the world, what did you think about that oil for food scandal and all those countries saddam bought off with oil vouchers? I bet that really upset you!

If ever there's a subject Anthony will avoid, it's that one. He doesn't want to know who the real oil thieves are.

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:22 am

Uh oh, I know I'm doing well when Anthony resorts to using the "p" word rather than backing up his statements. When he pulls the "p" word out of the magic hat, it means his back is up against the corner.

Doing a quick search in the forum, we see the word "propaganda" is used more by Anthony than all other posters combined:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=234013

Smiles abound when the "p" word comes out!

debunked

Mar 16th 2005, 9:27 am

Anthony,

The problem with that search is only opinion comes up, and very biased opinion with just heresay. That wouldn't even stand up in court, much less trying to make me believe the trash. Facts would be interesting, but over the year I have 'known' you, you have yet to show FACTS. Just like everyone else has told you before............

You see, Anthony, many people in america don't make decisions based on opinion. Or make decisions based on feelings. But base the decisions on facts and benefits to ALL (or as many as possible, since I am sure whatever it was wouldn't benefit you.)

If I wanted to hear biased opinion I would ask the college professor in science or math to tell my why Al Gore and John Kerry won the election and how the professor knows because he helped those people vote 10 times each and how the numbers would have mathematically added up to a sure win..................................

oh well, I am probably just spinning my wheels trying to speak some sense into you, since you obviously don't care about facts, but have a bone to pick.

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 9:32 am

Debunked if George Bush threw a bucket of shit in your face you would think that you still smell good, you are a waste of time to even respond to man :) :p :o :p

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:35 am

Does that mean if the UN threw oil in your face, you'd still try to figure a way to blame Bush for it?

anthonycea

Mar 16th 2005, 9:38 am

Remember G-tech, if your hero would have taken Saddam out in 1992 when we were on the ground in Bagdad, there would be no UN oil problem nor the current war on WMD that were never found :p :o :p

GTech

Mar 16th 2005, 9:44 am

I was not aware "what if's" counted.

So what you are saying is, you have no problem with the UN stealing oil and all those countries (our allies - well, maybe not yours) who were bought off with oil money? Instead, choosing outrage in oil stories that have no foundation?

Yep, and I bet it's Bush's fault the UN is turning a blind eye to ethnic cleansing (slaughtering) and raping little girls.

Oh the outrage we choose in our troubled times :rolleyes:

Saddam is certainly out of power now ;) Iraq's biggest WMD is no longer in power. And to think, some are so disappointed over it too. WMD is Syria. Would you like a satellite photo?

Once again the most liberal of news papers sheds some light:

http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/international/middleeast/13loot.html&OQ=pagewantedQ3DallQ26positionQ3D&OP=5e31e71b/Q2A_KOQ2A,r15JrrojQ2AjII8Q2AIQ24Q2AQ5EQ24Q2A~4oKJ4Q60o~r4Q60tQ2Az~,,tKKQ605oQ2AQ5EQ24trroQ3DQ5Cozt

debunked

Mar 16th 2005, 9:51 am

Gtech, what are you doing? Don't you know facts don't matter to AC???

Give him something for his feelings, like my cousin's, wife's, sister's, uncle said that GW Bush looks like a monkey so he is wrong.................

Anthony would be mad if Bush Sr took Saddam out of power back then. But just one more thing for him to blame. Kind of like the bad news or bad news theory I have of the media. - Oil prices are up= bad news for consumer ---- oil prices down= bad news for the investor. Either way AC will find the bad news in the story and dwell on it.

oops, I almost forgot:

Speaking of ripping off the world, what did you think about that oil for food scandal and all those countries saddam bought off with oil vouchers? I bet that really upset you!