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brainmass
Jun 10th 2004, 1:18 pm
Hey guys, we've been trying to target few keywords on our professional side of the business but nothing seems to be working.

Keywords:

business plan - www.brainmasspro.com/business/business_plan.php
competitive intelligence - www.brainmasspro.com/research/intelligence.php
consulting services - ww.brainmasspro.com/business/consulting_services.php
market research - www.brainmasspro.com/research/market_research.php
product development - www.brainmasspro.com/business/product_development.php

The site has been up for about a year but only recently, about 2-3 months, have we been targeting those specific keywords. None of those keywords appear anywhere in google, I went as far as 1000 results and we don't show up. I know these are competitive keywords but we should be able to crack top 1000 shouldn't we?

Is this a lost cause?


Thanks!

expat
Jun 10th 2004, 1:39 pm
It may sound rude but why don't you ask the gyts that do the job for you?

http://www.elaunches.com/news.html

M

Smyrl
Jun 10th 2004, 1:46 pm
With keywords as broad as those have you thought about starting out and targeting for you city and/or state first?

Shannon

Tapanti
Jun 10th 2004, 3:45 pm
we've been trying to target few keywords

Hi,

I don't know what you mean for trying to target, but I took a quick look at your pages and they need further SEO work to be done if you intend to begin showing in SERPs.

If you are doing the SEO work yourself, maybe you should consider getting some professional advise... If you are paying to have the SEO work done, maybe you should consider changing the optimizer.

compar
Jun 10th 2004, 3:49 pm
Tapanti,

Welcome to the forum. I hate animated gifs, but yours may just be the exception. That's cool!

eCommando
Jun 10th 2004, 4:19 pm
What anchor text are you using on the links?
Where do you rank when you do an allinanchor:keyword search on google?

nadlay
Jun 10th 2004, 5:09 pm
What anchor text are you using on the links?
Where do you rank when you do an allinanchor:keyword search on google?

What is one of these, and how does it help you?

disgust
Jun 10th 2004, 5:35 pm
when you link to someone, ie

a href="http://www.google.com" search engine /a

"search engine" would be the anchor text

google, and to some extent other SE's, will start to associate that url with that "anchor text"

nadlay
Jun 11th 2004, 2:02 am
Sorry, maybe I didn't ask the question correctly.

It was the word ALLINANCHOR that I didn't understand.

disgust
Jun 11th 2004, 2:06 am
go to google, search for

allinanchor: keyphrase

it'll show sites based solely in order of who as the most anchor text pointing to them with that

T0PS3O
Jun 11th 2004, 3:05 am
A quick back link search show just one link to the Business Plan page: http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=link:http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebrainmasspro%2Ecom%2Fbusiness%2Fbusiness%5Fplan%2Ephp

The anchor text was correct for this keword indeed. (elaunches.com/news PR4)

Try and get more back links!

Do the same analysis yourself for the other pages.

Also use McDar's analysis tool to get an idea of how many you need to compare with the top rankings in the SERPs for that particular keyword.

Tapanti
Jun 11th 2004, 7:38 am
Thank you for the welcome compar!

I call that animation "spider magic" and it illustrates what we all want to master here... how to mesmerize SE spiders to deliver our content in their web threads...

:cool:

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Continuing with the subject, I agree with what TOPS30 says:

Try and get more back links!

If you make a Backward Links Check on the site, you'll see that only 1 out of 53 sites linking to http://www.brainmasspro.com/ is an external link... and the page has a PR4.

For such highly competitive key phrases, you'll never get positions in the first pages if you don't begin a conscious and well designed referral link acquisition campaign.

So, get to work... find at as many good quality links to your site as you can... don't worry about the amount, but focus on the quality of the sites that will include your link.

In order to determinate the quality of a referral site and save you great amounts of useless work, you should check at least a couple of basic quality standards in the site, even before you begin to try to get your link included:

1- The PR has to be higher than 4.
2- The site must be a valid link provider. ( GG sometimes disregards links from certain URLs that offer massive link exchange structures or sites that sale text links. A way to determinate if the site is a valid link provider is see what sites are linked from the page where you are going to place your link, then go to the linked site and run a Backward Links Report in GG; if the results include the page where you plan to include your link, it is a valid provider... and of course, if it's not included in the results, chances are that it's been forbidden for some reason and therefore you shouldn't bother trying to get a link there.

Hope this helps.

Good luck.

brainmass
Jun 11th 2004, 12:55 pm
Ya I think I should start working on a small link campaign.

Sirxl
Mar 5th 2005, 9:17 pm
try to add more content on those keywords and use
www.sitereportcard.com
to check out the ratings