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Slincon
Oct 20th 2008, 3:25 pm
Well we've all heard of horror stories, but to be honest most of them are just random guesses or rationalizations as to why a site doesn't rank as well as the author thinks they should.

So I ask to the DP Community, what really happens if you build links too quickly?

Does anyone have any experience with this, perhaps you noticed an instant dip in rankings for your site title (where you had previously ranked as #1) or maybe you lost your sitelinks, or maybe you were even banned outright from the index.

Please share your stories or thoughts, but only if you believe it was a result of building links too quickly (eg: not because of dupe content, or cloaking).

Thanks, I'm just trying to get a better idea. My current opinion is that there is some sort of penalization in the SERPS, not an outright ban - but a penalty that seriously affects serps for the anchor text (keywords) you're attempting to rank for. Of course I'm just speculating, so it's pure heresy.

vstar
Oct 20th 2008, 3:39 pm
So I ask to the DP Community, what really happens if you build links too quickly? From my own experience, absolutely nothing happened, no movement upwards or dowwnwards in the serp's and no loss or gain in PR.

Google has to take into account that there are people who would like to sabotage their competitors, so they could simply take a competitors website and plug it into a submission software that mass submits to thousands of blogs and directories etc.

That's why Google won't penalize you for garnering links too quickly, however, they won't reward you either!

Heather48DD
Oct 20th 2008, 5:08 pm
A lot depends on really how old your website is also.
Lets say your starting out and you add 10,000 links in a month......that's a no no....oh ya. Google make never rank you.
But lets say your website is 3 years old and you've been online for a long time, 10,000 could get you in trouble , but most likely won't. Lets face it huge websites like ebay get millions maybe billions of new links each month. Do they get knocked out of google rankings?....NO way..........the system was set up to keep people honest, there's no way a website starting out should have 10,000 backlinks a month........or the fix is in>

AngelaE8654
Oct 20th 2008, 6:45 pm
A lot depends on really how old your website is also.
Lets say your starting out and you add 10,000 links in a month......that's a no no....oh ya. Google make never rank you.
But lets say your website is 3 years old and you've been online for a long time, 10,000 could get you in trouble , but most likely won't. Lets face it huge websites like ebay get millions maybe billions of new links each month. Do they get knocked out of google rankings?....NO way..........the system was set up to keep people honest, there's no way a website starting out should have 10,000 backlinks a month........or the fix is in>

Yeah, I think you're right. After all, a site that's been online for several years may have had sufficient "link bait" that got them 10,000 or more links.

zurpit.com
Oct 20th 2008, 6:57 pm
I don't think anything would happen if you build links too quickly, because than people could just get you backlinks and get your site penalized. I think google would just ignore those back links and not count them

mrmrdan
Oct 20th 2008, 7:41 pm
Your site gets sandboxed from what I've heard. I've never tried building links too quickly, not much point to it anyways unless you want to do something blackhat

npmfitness
Oct 20th 2008, 7:45 pm
This is what can happen in a "link vacuum" scenario.

When there are no links and then too many links are rendered rapidly ie; much the same way a fire needs oxygen to burn.

The same if your links disappear too quickly, you will illicit a "link vacuum", your fire will go out.

I hope this makes cents.

Sincerely.

sonthaya
Oct 20th 2008, 7:53 pm
On my personal Experiences, Huge amout of Backlinks at the same time( Let's just say some of 5,000up ) pointing to your website at the same time. It's happened to me last year. My site going down with no traffics from Search engine like google, Sitemap seem fine but ranking was gone.

I slowly pull out the links.

SEOBOT
Oct 20th 2008, 7:57 pm
Huge amount of backlinks can get your site backlist or not appear anywhere in the search results.
So never try buildings very fast.
Good Luck...

dpsubi1
Oct 20th 2008, 8:14 pm
from my experience, you need to keep on building links every month .. for example you are adding 25 links this month and next month add another 25 links. something like that ... it also depends how large your site is in terms of pages, etc.

WebSolutions86
Oct 20th 2008, 8:50 pm
Don't build links too fast for a new site, first have some good content, and lot of pages, then slowly start the link building. I've had couple of my sites penalized for over 2 months for quick link building, those were new sites, 3 months old. I've also build links quickly for an old site, but that site didn't get completed penalised, but it did got penalized to some extent.

They say "Big Guys can get away fine doing risky things" buts its a big NO for a new site.

omie
Oct 20th 2008, 9:03 pm
do your link building process slowly as well as contiguously...

apatters
Oct 20th 2008, 9:23 pm
Personally I think if this ever happens it's due to manual intervention at Google. There are likely new pieces of content coming online all the time that quickly get hundreds or even thousands of links legitimately. If some breaking news story hits the web and gets 1,000 links overnight, Google would be stupid to automatically penalize the site it's hosted on.

There does seem to be a phenomenon where new pages often rank well for a short period of time, but then they take a hit. I've seen that happen to pages I own regardless of how many links I built to them.

The standard "don't be dumb" disclaimer should apply here; building links quickly may not be a major risk, but if you're building 1,000 every day for three months you are probably gonna throw up a red flag somewhere.

jzarante1231
Oct 21st 2008, 12:04 am
It depends on the age of your site. If the website is new and you build links quickly, Google will sandbox that site. Although, we can say that nothing will happen negatively when you build links quickly but it can be that Google would ignore those links. You will not increase your ranking and you will just be wasting time and effort for it. To make it safe, build links naturally. You will have a good change to rank better.

gsv13
Oct 21st 2008, 12:27 am
Nothing really if they didn't notice or unless you are too famous.

XStryder
Oct 21st 2008, 11:32 am
I am still confused of term "building too quickly". Are there any exact amount of number that can be categorized for building too quickly? For new website, what is the safe number for building links before Google puts suspicion on the site?

wsitehelp
Oct 21st 2008, 12:04 pm
backlinks expires too, so if you build backlink too quickly, your count will increase and then you will have to build at same pace. The work never ends.

Ant_C
Oct 21st 2008, 1:23 pm
What I have experienced is that gaining 100's of links with the same anchor text, in a short space of time for a new website can damage the serps for said keywords.

livechatdir
Oct 21st 2008, 3:13 pm
Its about how consistent you are about building links. Building too many too quick and stopping is not good IMO.

netsearchresearch
Oct 21st 2008, 4:17 pm
forget quantity think quality
a lot of bad link will get you know where or send you down
a few high quality links will send you up quickly

BusinessCoach
Oct 21st 2008, 10:22 pm
advertise on TV
get featured on oprah, the today show etc


you will get a ton of links, right away



www.ereleases.com
www.prweb.com

both companies will get you 1000s of links in 24 hours.


when you get a lot of links quickly....you get a lot of traffic quickly...and thats about it.

NOWHERE has Google EVER said they penalize for getting links too fast...but you can be penalized for linking to spam sites, or for specifically trying to buy PageRank.

simonspurr
Oct 22nd 2008, 1:17 am
A lot depends on really how old your website is also.
Lets say your starting out and you add 10,000 links in a month......that's a no no....oh ya. Google make never rank you.
But lets say your website is 3 years old and you've been online for a long time, 10,000 could get you in trouble , but most likely won't. Lets face it huge websites like ebay get millions maybe billions of new links each month. Do they get knocked out of google rankings?....NO way..........the system was set up to keep people honest, there's no way a website starting out should have 10,000 backlinks a month........or the fix is in>

I got 10,000 backlinks in 2 months on one of my blogs and saw it's rankings have an extremely strong improvement

abraxas
Oct 22nd 2008, 2:10 am
Of course they won't penalize you/it's a guess as i've never tried/, however if you get many links (like times more than these that you get naturally) at once they will likely just ignore them.
As someone said above I also doubt any SE will leave an option to change the rankings of your competitors simply by creating thousands of links to their site.

cipals15
Oct 22nd 2008, 2:27 am
Building links quickly in a wise and efficient way. Don't just acquire links from every site on the web. Select only those trusted ones.

How do you know if its a trusted one? Visit the site you wanted to acquire link and research about it.

MobileFun4U
Oct 22nd 2008, 2:40 am
Deeplinking helps too.

BlueIce08
Oct 22nd 2008, 5:34 am
forget quantity think quality
a lot of bad link will get you know where or send you down
a few high quality links will send you up quickly

Agreed, it's all about the quality.