frustrated :(

[int_josh]

I'm relatively new to SEO, however for the past few months I've been absorbing every piece of information like a sponge.

I have a couple of sites, and I can't seem to figure out how people get thousands of backlinks? Let's assume they are not link baiting (because they are clearly made-for-adsense sites), so how does one get thousands of backlinks?

I bought SEO Elite (which is almost useless), Keyword Elite (only half the stuff works properly), and IBP (which actually works). I've been finding sites that are related and sending out emails to website owners, yet I have less than 1% success rate (meaning if I send out 100 pre-screened, targeted emails to quality related sites, I will only get 1 link or less). This takes hours and hours of extremely boring routine work and the result is very frustrating.

I tried article submit and downloaded article submitter, put my article on 50 websites and only few got noticed by search engines.

Right now I'm trying to submit my sites to as many directories as I can find, hopefully this will help. Also I joined LinkVault, so I'm going to see if that helps too.

What can I do to get many links to my website?

[ahtum]

a lot of articles maybe they come through a rss reader , a forum with a lot of threads and search friendly urls :).

[rubeina]

You can buy them :)
Many users here are selling quality links at fairly good prices.

Yes submit to as many directories as possible, the more backlinks you have the more "visible" you will be on search engines.

Concerning article, I don't know how much you have written yet, but try writing a lot or articles, 4-5 weekly after some weeks you'll see the change.

[cormac]

Building backlinks can be a painful process but it has to be done. I 100% know how you feel when sending out emails to hundreds of webmasters only to get 1% success rate.

Start building links with directories which is also a boring process but it needs to be done. Take a look at http://www.707directory.com/General/ and go through each directory. Before submitting to a directory I check to see if it has Page rank, it doesnt list spam or illegal site and it does not use the no follow rule.

I'll go for free one way links first.

[Tyler Banfield]

Stay active on DP, and once you meet the requirements, you can add the links to your signature, which will help build up some backlinks ;)

[w529]

Building back links is a slow painful process
You can take a look at
http://dir.w529.com/Niche-Directories/Directories/
Or take a look on my own "Directory of Directories"
http://dir.w529.com
This is a list of directories that list directories
I use the software “LinkAssistant” for finding link partners
They have a Free demo try it.
Best of Luck

[int_josh]

You can buy them :)
Many users here are selling quality links at fairly good prices.

Yes submit to as many directories as possible, the more backlinks you have the more "visible" you will be on search engines.

Concerning article, I don't know how much you have written yet, but try writing a lot or articles, 4-5 weekly after some weeks you'll see the change.

You mean write and submit multiple articles for one website?

[int_josh]

Building back links is a slow painful process
You can take a look at
http://dir.w529.com/Niche-Directories/Directories/
Or take a look on my own "Directory of Directories"
http://dir.w529.com
This is a list of directories that list directories
I use the software “LinkAssistant” for finding link partners
They have a Free demo try it.
Best of Luck

What is your percentage of successful link exchanges when writing other webmasters?

[Pammer]

Seems like you are totally new... and trying to soo hard to acheivement your Goal..... In dp forums... you will find many info here... you need good unique articles, directory submision... some related reciprocal links... better if one way links and then promote your sites here... and then in two or more weeks you will find more good results...

[rubeina]

You mean write and submit multiple articles for one website?
Yes, only 1 article will not help much, you can write one weekly and submit to as many article directories as you can.
This list may help you
http://www.articler.com/9746/big-list-of-article-directories.html

[int_josh]

Yes, only 1 article will not help much, you can write one weekly and submit to as many article directories as you can.
This list may help you
http://www.articler.com/9746/big-list-of-article-directories.html

Well, duplicate links from same sites aren't going to be counted twice by the search engines (as far as I understand they count the links only from each individual website only once).

Or are you saying that other webmasters will use those articles on their own website? Is that the main purpose?

[int_josh]

Seems like you are totally new... and trying to soo hard to acheivement your Goal..... In dp forums... you will find many info here... you need good unique articles, directory submision... some related reciprocal links... better if one way links and then promote your sites here... and then in two or more weeks you will find more good results...

How does one go about getting reciprocal links?

[ablaye]

Welcome to the club!

[cormac]

How does one go about getting reciprocal links?

Email a webmaster who has a site in the same topic and ask them to exchange links.

[adamovic]

I have a couple of sites, and I can't seem to figure out how people get thousands of backlinks?
What can I do to get many links to my website?

I know how do you feel and you are not the only one.
First, beware when submitting to directories.
Niche directories - the results on google for "resources my niche" are good place, but some directories are FFA and you might get attached to bad neighbour.

Probably you should try 3-way link exchange since you have more sites.

[adamovic]

Stay active on DP, and once you meet the requirements, you can add the links to your signature, which will help build up some backlinks ;)

I would say that in general. Find your niche forum which does accept signature and take participation. After some time you will get some traffic. In my opinion, non webmaster related forums have members who click on signature links quite often. So if your website is about "online trading" find "online trading forum" and took participation. There you will have better CTR and ROI from your signature than here ;)

[cormac]

In my opinion, non webmaster related forums have members who click on signature links quite often.

I agree and get some great traffic from non webmaster forums, they are a great source.

[sebastya]

why not get a freelancer to build links for you?

[adamovic]

why not get a freelancer to build links for you?


Also good idea. I think that you could get PR4 with as low as 200$ with outsourced link building. If you aren't in developing country it is really a bargain.

[sebastya]

go check out some freelancer sites, some people are gettin links for much less..

[Janet]

Time, patience and a lot of hard work.

[vangraan]

sebastya which sites can you recommend to find a link builder?

[fatinfo guy]

Directory submissions are not easy. I am going through an excel list of about 3 thousand sites / directories compiled by merging listings from various sites, so far it is taking a lot longer than I expected. It may be worthwhile to pay someone to do the submissions for you.

[Tyler Banfield]

sebastya which sites can you recommend to find a link builder?

I would just create a thread in the Services forum stating what you are looking for

[diego]

Chech this:

"http://www.freerelevantlinks.com/PaidDirectoryRankings.aspx"

... yes is boring, but is a require :)

[sebastya]

sebastya which sites can you recommend to find a link builder?

getafreelancer.com

[CuXe]

Chech this:

"http://www.freerelevantlinks.com/PaidDirectoryRankings.aspx"

... yes is boring, but is a require :)

Ive tried them .... its not good. You have to wait a couple of months to see 5 links to your site; and i had links applied to every single page of mine. So decided to go on a different direction (article submissions)....

[dejaone]

For link building, its not about what techniques you use. There're only a number of techniques for building one-way links. Likely everyone here knows all of them. It's really about how you use each technique. The devil is in the details. For instance, we are able to rank competitive keywords (keywords that are searched half million times a month) in top 10 across all three search engines in most of time using the techniques everyone knows about.

For directory submissions, the keyword to success is to "submit right site to right directories to right category at right time". For instance, if you're trying to submit to PR7+ directories, the approval rate is probably less than 1-5%.

For article submissions, it's really not about SUBMISSIONS. Your article really need to offer original THOUGHTS, Not just uniuqe (but useless) content or search engine food. This involves a lot of research, creativity and use right and repeatable processes. Good articles will get your high PR links from respected websites (not just article sites). An average article will only get links from article sites with which the value will fade quickly.

Link building can be boring, or fun if you do it creatively.

[Ballz]

why the shit isnt google picking up the links to my site?? is it banned or blocked in bad books! or what!!!!!!!!

I AM REALLY getting frustrated!!!!!!!!

Its the same site as on my siggy

[timw]

Time is the killer.

[nobluff]

Ive tried them .... its not good. You have to wait a couple of months to see 5 links to your site; and i had links applied to every single page of mine. So decided to go on a different direction (article submissions)....

Ive also tried freerelevantlinks links, I have waited over a month and dont have any links from them. You can no longer contact them to find out why you have no links (option removed)! I started another thread about this site as I have a feeling that its a pyramid scam!

[Alan Murray]

Do think that you need to build thousands of links. They are many examples of sites with 200 odd links ranking for very competitive keywords in google. To rank high in google you require quality links.

Getting links in directories is a good idea, but adding lots of low quality links may now harm you position in google, especially if it is in the first year of so. Paid directories and buying links from other quality relevant sites will help you gain the trust needed to rank high.

[SEOLinker]

Well, if you are getting something like 1% success rate in reciprocal link building then you are doing something wrong, please give us an example of your e-mail to relevant site.

E-mail should be personal (have name or just something not very "template"). Also if it template do not make it sounds like from robot:) Short and to the point is best.

Also be sure to send e-mails from something like links@yoursite.com and also follows link instructions of site you want to contact about link.

Average rate of success in reciprocals something like 10% actually. It maybe of course something like 5-8% or 20% or even more, but 1% really bad.

Do directory submissions for first to gain some pagerank. Other sites will be more likely agree to exchange links then.

Be sure that your link page have no more than 40-50 links on it. Make several pages if you still need to place links first and people still not reply about them (it may take up to 1 month, if later - simply delete the link)

Your link page url needs to be SE friendly and pass PR. Avoid make it dynamic url.

Place on your link page "link to me" info and promise reciprocal when someone place link to you and let you know about it.

Keep only relevant links on link pages. Be sure to save contact info of other sites correct you may mispell URL or e-mail and miss potential link.

You can also spent money on PHPLD (assuming you already spent so much , $25 more will not make you poor I think), setup directory, gave it some PR and try 3-way link exchange. Helps great.

Avoid any link exchange services, almost all of them pure BS , only linkmetro was good for me, all other have no relevant sites almost or just have very low quality sites. Not sure about link LinkVault, have not tried it.

You may consider ARELIS or LinkAssistant if you wish (you already using IBP, so have ARELIS in new version), however automating this process without manual afterwork will not show great results. May consider hire freelancer to do so work (however you get what you pay for, don't forget).

Hope that helps, if not let me know if you have any questions.

[SEOLinker]

And I forget, keep good and with common sense urls with keywords on your site and build good sitemap and link structure. No one want to have link to him burried under 10 cliks from homepage.

[BrandonAtNite]

what if you have a site that isn't really built to host other links other than the people advertising with you. I wan't to get back links but, the way my site is built it has to stay clean and has no place to really have multiple links.

[SEOLinker]

what if you have a site that isn't really built to host other links other than the people advertising with you. I wan't to get back links but, the way my site is built it has to stay clean and has no place to really have multiple links.

Brandon, then you need to obtain only one-way links, start from directories submission , then write some articles and submit them to sites which accepts them (be sure to include your backlink) and do your best while working with content of your site (it must be really good and unique). Then collect decent list of sites where you want backlink (and still do not have) and try to describe them why it will be cool for them to place link to you.

[Mr_Kumar]

I agree with SEOLinker. Start with directory submission, then article submissions and then reciprocal links. You can also join link networks.

[boydysurf]

I've been reading this thread and to int_josh for what it is worth...every seo shares in your compaints! But I think quite often when you have something dynamic happening (links from quality relevant sites and directories, blogs, viral marketing) you get momentum and traffic eventually.

SeoLinker, you have some really good advice. I thank you.

Int_Josh, and I speak to myself as well, what u need to employ is perseverance. Make sure you are making the right sort of sites in the right types of markets and just stick at it. Results should come. Try and look ahead. I get frustrated too and want to give up when I see my adsense acc sometimes. Just keep her lit!

[SEOLinker]

Thanks, David!

I am going to Adsense this autumn, hope to reach $100 a day in 1 year, I'll see how it will be going) Maybe not, but at least worth trying!

You need to try Wordtracker to find right keywords for adsense sites, if you still don't do it. I can predict that if 3 sites in your signature, then only 1 of them pay something decent comparing with 2 others:)

[Dead_Elvis]

I personally suggest straight-up networking. Get to know people in your niche... hang out wherever they hang out. Become a part of the group, create meaningful content related to your niche, and people will link to it.

I have found this to be much more productive than sending out a bajillion e-mails in the hope of getting a link.

Just become part of the community (I know, it's easier said than done, but so is anything worth doing!)

It really does work :)

And it'ss true, you dont need thousands of links... I'm ranking quite well with just a few hundred – but they have to be quality.

Hope this helps...

[SEOTeam]

Article submission never really worked for me either and I did article submissions for a major.com.

the problem is most peole syndicating from these article sites are people who are spammers. SPAMMERS!!!! that is whorable backlinks.

The best advice you can take from this is to make your articles truly news worthy and try to get them picked up by newspaper sites.

Use these tools to check the quality of these sites as well.

[cormac]

SPAMMERS!!!! that is whorable backlinks.

*cough* you have just spammed this forum with that link for the past 10 minutes - this is now the 6th thread I have spotted.

[SEOTeam]

ACtually I am posting comments that are viable and helpful. And its not spamming its called internet marketing. Get your facts straight.

[cormac]

ACtually I am posting comments that are viable and helpful. And its not spamming its called internet marketing. Get your facts straight.

Well my facts are straight and on here it is seen as spamming. If it wasnt seen as spam the mod wouldnt have edited your posts to remove the link :rolleyes:

Also, going into a sales thread where someone was selling a submitting service and posting your link as a better option was a low move and is what I would call "agressive internet marketing" against another DP member.

[SEOTeam]

When a service is corrupt, a scam or something that is underhanded like marketing myspace. That is unethical. I have no problem going in there and giving unsuspecting victims a heads up. Do you know what a link farm is? If you did you would understand that putting 1000 links up on myspace could get you banned from google and devalue your site. My post's where not banned for spamming as you can see they are still present and so am I. They did remove a footer which in my opinion was unjust because I was pointing to tools that could help these people.

One thing I hate is people who post before they know what they are speaking about. The facts are I gave very USEFUL information with a link to USEFUL tools. If you dont like it then leave this post.

[fryman]

Using a fake sig is spamming.

I can only imagine the "quality" seo your "seoteam" does... :rolleyes:

[SEOTeam]

Its not fake anymore is it? Genious!

[cormac]

My post's where not banned for spamming

No the posts were not banned because of spamming and as I said before they were edited because of spamming - banning and editing are different.

If you really think it was unjust for the editing then contact the owner of DP and I am sure he'll let you know the rules.

As for the rant on link farms I really dont know how that popped into your head. :confused:

[Dead_Elvis]

Its not fake anymore is it? Genious!

It's "Genius," genius.

;)

[BrandonAtNite]

What exactly are directory submissions?

[SEOLinker]

Brandon, that means people will place link with your site in it to other site, which represents collection of sites divided by industries.

[spyrochan023]

yah thats right!