site now also stolen

[Solicitors Mortgages]

ah..you reap what you sow ~sigh~

someone is ripping off the site (second one in my sig links)
and showing it in a frame with their OWN adsense on the left side...
how can i stop this....could i do an .htaccess ? if so what does it need to say?
or is there another way?

the thief >> ww*.emanuelebrandi.it/public/spring.asp?http://www.dessert-recipes.co.uk

G-E-M

[Smyrl]

I would contact Google adsense immediatel with thier adsense pub number.

Shannon

[Crazy_Rob]

<Limit GET>
order deny,allow
deny from **.IP.AD.DY
</Limit>

[Solicitors Mortgages]

thanks Shannon..i have just done that.

rob (make up your mind with that avatar) i didn't understand that

deny from **.IP.AD.DY ?????? is that IP or ADDY or both??

[Crazy_Rob]

just the IP address- sorry

<Limit GET>
order deny,allow
deny from 11.11.11.11
</Limit>


rob (make up your mind with that avatar) i didn't understand that


Just don't worry about it, avatar nazi!

[nullbit]

Blocking their IP will not work. Being in a frame, it will be the IP of whoever visiting the site you will get. Blocking the referrer would be the best option.

[Solicitors Mortgages]

i cannot find which IP to ban,, i have tried about 5 already :(

[debunked]

Your pubID seems to be on the inside (scraped) frame and his on the left bar.

I hope he doesn't get tooo many clicks today and causes adsense to ban him (thief!!)

Hope you are able to block to this thief.

[Solicitors Mortgages]

Blocking their IP will not work. Being in a frame, it will be the IP of whoever visiting the site you will get. Blocking the referrer would be the best option.

nullbit how is that done?..in basic terms ;)

[nullbit]

i cannot find which IP to ban,, i have tried about 5 already :(

Read my comment above, blocking the IP will not work in this situation.

Edit: Obviously you have read it, we posted at the same time.

[Crazy_Rob]

I see! He didn't steal your site. You can plug any site into the URL and it will preview the site.

http://ww*.emanuelebrandi.it/public/spring.asp?http://www.digitalpoint.com

IE Only.

[nullbit]

This page has details on blocking requests based on referrer (using mod_rewrite): http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/rewriteguide.html . The section you should read is "Referer-based Deflector."

[Solicitors Mortgages]

yeh..and the entire site will stay in HIS window...showing his adsence...unless you have a page that opens in a new window..
sneaky...and i'm going to OWN this guys name on google in about 5 friggin' minutes...(well digital point will,after my next new thread)..and it wont be a nice thread :o

he can go build his own sites..

[gchaney]

Can you not just add a no-frames javascript which breaks frames.

Cheers

[Solicitors Mortgages]

Can you not just add a no-frames javascript which breaks frames.

Cheers
how is that done?, thanks for your suggestion

[Crazy_Rob]

Put this under your <title>

<script>
<!-- Hide JS Script
if (top.location != self.location) {
top.location = self.location
}
//End Hide JS Script-->
</script>

[Solicitors Mortgages]

wicked....thats the trick...

done..i might undo it...for a bit ..just to let google sort his adsense

whats the implications of having that code BEFORE the meta tags?..it wont affect spidering or anything?????

[mkeen]

Off topic but nice job at integrating adsense into that site.

Really nice.

[Smyrl]

Put this under your <title>

<script>
<!-- Hide JS Script
if (top.location != self.location) {
top.location = self.location
}
//End Hide JS Script-->
</script>
Should we all be adding this code for safety?

Shannon

[Solicitors Mortgages]

if it wasnt stealing my bandwidth, and leaching someones site, i would tend to agree.
Its the integrity of the man thats in question..not his adsense skills ;)

[Crazy_Rob]

I think he was probably referring to your site.

[mkeen]

yeah I mean your site, it works really well in the middle there.

[candysmith]

I've had the same thing happen to me.... my entire site uplifted and published to a different domain name and the culorits running all sorts of ads and stuff. Plus they changed the name (but not the images). Just whereever it said SA-Venues, they changed it to SA-TravelInfo. The SAME company did it to us twice, once 2 months ago and once +/- 2 years ago.

You need to find out who their ISP is and send a VERY threatening letter. Threaten them with legal action because they have stolen your content. If the actual culprit doesn't remove the site, the ISP will, because they are just as culpable as they are hosting stolen material.

Sh*t I feel for you, this is so upsetting when people try to profit from your hard work. If you need any help or want a copy of my "threatening letters", just PM me.

[mkeen]

I've had the same thing happen to me.... my entire site uplifted and published to a different domain name and the culorits running all sorts of ads and stuff. Plus they changed the name (but not the images). Just whereever it said SA-Venues, they changed it to SA-TravelInfo. The SAME company did it to us twice, once 2 months ago and once +/- 2 years ago.

You need to find out who their ISP is and send a VERY threatening letter. Threaten them with legal action because they have stolen your content. If the actual culprit doesn't remove the site, the ISP will, because they are just as culpable as they are hosting stolen material.

Sh*t I feel for you, this is so upsetting when people try to profit from your hard work. If you need any help or want a copy of my "threatening letters", just PM me.


This site isnt stealing content though, they are just wrapping his site around a frame like askjeeves do.

[Crazy_Rob]

This site isnt stealing content though, they are just wrapping his site around a frame like askjeeves do.


I posted that about ten messages ago. I guess people don't like reading. :confused:

[Solicitors Mortgages]

yeah I mean your site, it works really well in the middle there.

sorry..and thanks
...thought you were referring to the other site, we are happy with it.

[neterslandreau]

wicked....thats the trick...

done..i might undo it...for a bit ..just to let google sort his adsense

whats the implications of having that code BEFORE the meta tags?..it wont affect spidering or anything?????
You could wrap that into a function and then have the function called in your body tag with an onmouseover call. This way the google bot won't be bothered but the visitors will still break out of the frame.

[nullbit]

You could wrap that into a function and then have the function called in your body tag with an onmouseover call. This way the google bot won't be bothered but the visitors will still break out of the frame.

Except for the few people who don't use a mouse often/at all.

I don't think the GoogleBot will be bothered anyway.

[fryman]

Newbie question, but how did you find out he was stealing your content with an iframe?

[Crazy_Rob]

Newbie question, but how did you find out he was stealing your content with an iframe?

It showed up in the SERPS for one of his keyword terms.

[Solicitors Mortgages]

It showed up in the SERPS for one of his keyword terms.

yep...Salamander did a search for the sites url,

...ww*.mydomain.co.uk then checked "find webpages that contain the term"

it was lurking on page2

[Smyrl]

It showed up in the SERPS for one of his keyword terms.
Once you see a site showing up for one of your keywords what do you look for to know someone is using an iframe vs a 302 vs cloaking etc?

I find several entries for my name that I find no reason for being indexed for it.

Shannon

[explorer]

This site is displaying the pages from most of the sites in the Open Directory in its own frame.

http://www.tchealth.com/Resources-Regional/

[neterslandreau]

Newbie question, but how did you find out he was stealing your content with an iframe?
Rob said he found it in the SERP's which shows a lot of diligence on his part.

You can also get a clue by seeing a large number of referrals from that page in your logs. Because I'm curious about where my traffic comes from if it's not from a SE, I'd have visited the referring page.

[Solicitors Mortgages]

To clear up this matter, I received a PM from the owner of
the website in question. And seeing as he was mature enough at least
to remove the stolen content from his site, it need go no further.
I have asked DP to remove the thread which published the full who-is
information regarding Mr. Stefano Cecconi as it is against the TOS of
the who-is website.
however neither of us can do anything about it being published elsewhere, for internet fraud ..like this example which i am sure as an ANTI-EMAIL FRAUD website..is within its rights.
(scroll to the bottom)
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:7N5kKHo6XUsJ:www.antiphishing.org/phishing_archive/08-04-04_US_Bank_(Confirm_your_account_information).html+Stefano+Cecconi&hl=en

Perhaps Mr Stefano Cecconi will now appreciates that theft of copyrighted material is also illegal, and will cease from partaking in internet copyright theft
again in the future. Should it ever happen again then this thread stands as a
record and will be brought to bear in any such circumstance.

Below is a copy 'for the record' of the PM i received 02 mar 2005, where the removal (now done..in fact i removed the whole thread as a gesture of goodwill). Interesting how someone stealing your content and going against googles TOS for adsense and seemingly involved in an internet phishing scam, can start pointing out what is legal and what isn't !!

Anyway..more to the wiser, this issue has now been closed.



Hi,
I am the owner of the site you were talking about in the forum www.emanuelebrandi.it
What you call a site-stealing is simply an internal frame; anyway to avoid any possible future problem I removed frames from my site replacing them with links.

There is nothing illegal about using frames, but publishing personal unauthorized data of a person on a public forum is certainly illegal. Now provide immediately to remove personal information drawn from WHOIS server, or I will have to contact the owner of the forum in order to take action.

If there was a problem is much better contacting people directly via e-mail instead of writing insults on a public forum risking real legal actions.

[Angus]

Its never nice being caught out is it :)

The break out of frames code works well. Likewise its worthwhile using the google frames page code by default so sites like askjeeves dont rebrand your adsense layout as well.